Luki hasn't showed up here in a while now, I think he left mentioning something about a hiatus (or was that Eth?)
That was Eth, Luki went camping.
I thought We were the happy fun forum, and UQM was the one with the awfull signal/noise ratio? Where did we go wrong? 
Luki told me in a PM exchange why he hasn't come back yet (it was something specific but you'd have to ask him), but he said he'd be back sooner or later.
Correction: SCDB is the "over 50% off topic garbage" forum.
It sounds like Shiver would like to be banned. Look at his contribution to this thread - who
doesn't think that half his reason for being here is to make trouble? Who objects? Clearly Shiver wouldn't mind. But it's more than a little nutty that he keeps crawling back, after more or less declaring that this place is manifestly inferior, and after being periodically flamed off the forum. Shall we continue the cycle?

I'm tired of saying this, but I like UQMF, not nearly as much fun as here though. That and all the projects which get started and never get within coo-ee of finishing. It amounts to a lot of attention seeking more than it does useful on-topic discussion. If I start something it will only be when I think I will actually finish it. You can only discuss SC for so long in the absence of an SC2+1 before it gets repetitive. Oh and that place has a whole lot more jerks (I try not to count jerks here who have come from over there just to post about how great UQMF is and shit up our atmosphere generally).