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Title: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Sedodes on December 19, 2009, 06:23:44 pm
Hey why not?  We've got a few other Megathreads.  Why not a venting one?

I'm married and as a result am pretty much either pissed off, depressed, asleep, or stoned these days.  If anything is going to get me to come back to the PNF it'll probably be this thread.

As for this very I have to shower, shave my head, and my face all in about 40 minutes.  And I'm wasting time here.  Gah, I'm so pissed off at the PNF for wasting my time...

 ;D
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Nuclear on December 19, 2009, 07:03:56 pm
Thats it Sedodes, just let it all out. You'll feel better....
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on December 19, 2009, 11:07:43 pm
I'm pissed off at Inkscape for losing my work a few weeks back, my company for dicking around and some of my friends for various reasons.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on December 20, 2009, 01:08:54 am
  I'm pissed at Sedodes for spoiling my mood.  I was doing fine until he came along and got me thinking about things that piss me off.  Fuck you, Sedodes!   :-*
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: fossaman on December 20, 2009, 03:15:09 am
I'm pissed off because I don't have anything to write about being pissed off at.

Oh, wait. Nevermind.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Rider on December 20, 2009, 08:54:24 am
I'm pissed because I seem to be unable to have a working PC with a decent video card. Every new card I order gets dead within a week. Some are just DOA, others overheat themselves (without any overclocking on my part, and my cooling's pretty decent!) and yet others simply don't arrive because they are out of stock JUST as I order them.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Nuclear on December 20, 2009, 09:57:41 am
I'm pissed off because I'm going through so much trouble just to get System Shock 2 working on a Vista OS, damned shared affinity!
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on December 21, 2009, 01:37:23 am
I'm pissed off because I'm going through so much trouble just to get System Shock 2 working on a Vista OS, damned shared affinity!

Let me assure you that once you have it running, you won't be pissed off anmore. Scared silly, yes. But not pissed off.

I'm really pissed off at the guy who passed me on the road yesterday in the middle of a snowstorm, almost running me off the road. Do you really need to be doing 90 km/h when the visibility is about 2 metres and there's 20 cm of snow on the road?
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Rider on December 21, 2009, 05:54:42 am
I'm pissed off at the joker that tossed my bike onto the ice while I was away at my parents house. Good thing it's been freezing ever since I left or that thing would've been sleeping with the fishes.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Dabir on December 21, 2009, 06:46:27 am
I'm pissed off that every game on my Wii is either player-punishingly difficult, incomprehensible or Wii Sports/Resort.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Draxas on December 21, 2009, 07:38:47 am
I'm pissed that we had a foot & a half of snow dumped on us this weekend. I was trapped indoors, it was freezing cold, and I couldn't get any last minute shopping done. And then the wife and I had to spend 2 hours digging it out so we could go to work today. Which I'm also pissed about, because there is no better way to piss me off than combining work and snow.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Sedodes on December 21, 2009, 08:25:17 am
I'm pissed because marriage has ruined me as a person.  I used to be a cynical, funny prick.  Now I'm a cynical, guilt-addled prick.  I have to second-guess everything I WANT to do based on if I CAN do it because I have so many family obligations that I simply don't have the time.  I have no more hobbies or pursuits I enjoy, because the ones I did have my wife didn't like and the ones my wife wants me to do are goddamn retarded.  The few times I do get to do what I want I get bitched at.  I can't have a discussion with people to vent my frustration because my wife gets angry when I talk about our relationship to other people, gets angry when I type online, and gets angry when I talk to her.  This isn't even the fun kind of pissed that I used to experience here; it's a frustrated pissed because I'm too goddamn stubborn to end my marriage even though I'm utterly miserable.

Fuck my life.  If I weren't so egotistical I'd be suicidal.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Angelfish on December 21, 2009, 09:34:01 am
I'm pissed off because some guy thought I was a racist because I looked at him the wrong way and couldn't remember his name :')
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Nuclear on December 21, 2009, 10:27:06 am
Thats kinda more funny then it is frustrating.....
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Kerma on December 21, 2009, 10:31:33 am
I'm pissed off because I can't find anything to be pissed off at.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Sage on December 21, 2009, 01:42:05 pm
I'm pissed off because there are too many things to list that I'm pissed off about.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Alen on December 21, 2009, 02:28:32 pm
Im pissed off at politicians who say they want to change things but when they get into a position of power they do jack.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Nuclear on December 21, 2009, 02:37:48 pm
I'm pissed off at cabbage rolls because they taste much worse then they sound....
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Alen on December 21, 2009, 02:39:52 pm
Im pissed off at nuclear because hes pissed off at cabbage rolls! Just kidding cabbage rolls are disguising!  ;)
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Nuclear on December 21, 2009, 02:42:36 pm
When I had then, I was thinking "Oo! they must taste like egg roles!" What a sad mistake that was....
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Alen on December 21, 2009, 02:46:36 pm
It goes the same for spring rolls. The rule of thumb is be cautious about anything that's in a pastry,
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Nuclear on December 21, 2009, 02:49:10 pm
I find that you should be weery of anything with tomatoe sauce, you never know what they put in it! (it just might piss you off!) :P
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on December 21, 2009, 08:53:46 pm
I'm pissed because marriage has ruined me as a person.  I used to be a cynical, funny prick.  Now I'm a cynical, guilt-addled prick.  I have to second-guess everything I WANT to do based on if I CAN do it because I have so many family obligations that I simply don't have the time.  I have no more hobbies or pursuits I enjoy, because the ones I did have my wife didn't like and the ones my wife wants me to do are goddamn retarded.  The few times I do get to do what I want I get bitched at.  I can't have a discussion with people to vent my frustration because my wife gets angry when I talk about our relationship to other people, gets angry when I type online, and gets angry when I talk to her.  This isn't even the fun kind of pissed that I used to experience here; it's a frustrated pissed because I'm too goddamn stubborn to end my marriage even though I'm utterly miserable.

Fuck my life.  If I weren't so egotistical I'd be suicidal.

Maybe you'd be happier if you'd, y'know, grow a pair.  I tried to explain to you some years ago the soul-corroding compromises involved in daily intimacy with another person, but you were appalled by what I was saying.  If this observation pisses you off, well, you're in good company in this thread. 
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Rider on December 21, 2009, 09:58:57 pm
Also, for some odd reason this reminds me of a comedy show I saw last night, Christopher Titus' "Love is Evol" it's funny, but it touches on this subject as well as he's a survivor of just such a relationship. I'd suggest you check it out, worst case is you see something unfunny to post about in this thread.

I'm pissed off at the stupid train network stranding me and a friend of mine on some forsaken train station for 3 odd hours in the middle of the night while freezing.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Dragon on December 22, 2009, 01:08:35 am
Talking about weather.  Hail.  Hail can just fuck right off.  I've been caught on the road in three hailstorms in the last two weeks.  But not little hail.  Big hail.  In the nine years I've lived here there hasn't been a big hailstorm and now I've gotten stuck in three.

To top it all off I, like everyone else, fled into the cover of a petrol station where the wind, which was driving the rain pretty much horizontally, picked up one of the heavy metal air pumps and flung it into my car.  Seriously, I would have rather been out in the hail.

 >:(  >:(  >:(
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Cedric6014 on December 22, 2009, 02:04:27 am
Plus 1 karma to Dragon. Cant believe he's opnly on 2. That pisses me off!
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Dragon on December 22, 2009, 02:23:44 am
Plus 1 karma to Dragon. Cant believe he's only on 2. That pisses me off!
10 Now I'm happy :).  Oh, now I can't post in this thread.  Now I'm unhappy :(.  But now I can post again.  goto 10
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Sage on December 22, 2009, 05:46:04 pm
I have to second-guess everything I WANT to do based on if I CAN do it...
This, I'm afraid, is called marriage. It's a fact of life, at least to some extent. However...

...because I have so many family obligations that I simply don't have the time.
And what exactly is stopping you from just saying "no", or if you're not feeling like direct confrontation, how about conveniently falling asleep right before?

I have no more hobbies or pursuits I enjoy...
This is a feeling that I am sad to say I have shared, but it was anxiety due to a stressful job, not a stressful marriage.

because the ones I did have my wife didn't like and the ones my wife wants me to do are goddamn retarded.
And what exactly is stopping you from telling her "Whateva! I do what I want!" when she tries to get you to do something you don't want? Or how about just ignoring her for a little while, since she seems to have some sort of bizarre fixation with spending all your time with her?

The few times I do get to do what I want I get bitched at.
If there are other rooms in the house, go to them. If not, leave the house. If she bitches when you return, leave again. Eventually she may get the message.

I can't have a discussion with people to vent my frustration because my wife gets angry when I talk about our relationship to other people, gets angry when I type online, and gets angry when I talk to her.
She's so insecure about the status of your relationship that she doesn't want you talking about it to anyone including her? Seriously, that is not a healthy way to deal with anybody if there is a problem. The more you talk about her, the more I swear she sounds like a teenager.

Oh shit I just called someone a teenager...I'm getting old!

This isn't even the fun kind of pissed that I used to experience here; it's a frustrated pissed because I'm too goddamn stubborn to end my marriage even though I'm utterly miserable.
This is unacceptable. The only pissed of Sedodes should be is the kind of pissed off you used to experience here!

Fuck my life.  If I weren't so egotistical I'd be suicidal.
Seriously, if there are problems to the point where you're thinking like this and she's unwilling to even listen to your gripes or allow you to have them with others, it may be time to walk away.

Maybe you'd be happier if you'd, y'know, grow a pair.
Simple, concise, and to the point. I like it.

I tried to explain to you some years ago the soul-corroding compromises involved in daily intimacy with another person, but you were appalled by what I was saying. If this observation pisses you off, well, you're in good company in this thread.
Now it seems Sedodes understands that observation. He has seen that which cannot be unseen. I just hope it's not too late for our resident stupid box.

Sorry all, I launched into "help Sedodes" mode even though that wasn't the thrust of this thread.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on December 23, 2009, 01:58:42 am
Oh shit I just called someone a teenager...I'm getting old!
Illegibly-small text pisses me off!
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Sage on December 23, 2009, 02:50:48 am
Yep, and as far as I can remember, you can blame me for that one. ;)
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on December 23, 2009, 05:26:19 am
Sorry all, I launched into "help Sedodes" mode even though that wasn't the thrust of this thread.

Or that's what he'd have you think ;) While I don't agree fully with Eth on the "soul corroding" properties of marriage and how it inhibits your masterpieces, I do agree that it forces you to compromise. There's not enough hours in the day to do everything. So you have to think of what to do, and when. Sometimes you do your stuff, sometimes you do stuff together. Finding a balance is always tricky.

I'm pissed off that the snow outside appears to be melting the day before Christmas Eve. We've not have snow for Christmas for years, so I was really excited. And now it's all melting away :(
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Zeracles on December 23, 2009, 05:57:07 am
I'm pissed off at the galaxy distribution. It has these massive voids that give my density estimator dynamic range issues. It also has filaments that give my contouring routine headaches because it then goes and joins all the clusters togther. It always throws up some oddity that forces me to take a step back and devise yet another solution and write yet more code to step around the issue.

Stupid universe >:(

Good thing it's been freezing
That sounds wonderful, I'm happy for you :P

I'm pissed that we had a foot & a half of snow dumped on us this weekend.
I'm slightly pissed that I've never experienced real snow, but not about the fact I don't have to suffer through blizzards over christmas.

gets angry when I type online
Is this a new thing, or did she never see you making one of those 3700 posts before you got married?

Plus 1 karma to Dragon. Cant believe he's opnly on 2. That pisses me off!
I can totally believe it because karma's a shitty system. Oh, +1 Dragon and Nuclear. Also pissed I don't have the lowest karma around here goto -100

the wind, which was driving the rain pretty much horizontally, picked up one of the heavy metal air pumps and flung it into my car.
I'll remember that next time I'm pissed because I spilt petrol on the paint (it happened today) after filling 'er up ;D
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Alen on December 23, 2009, 08:40:17 am
Im pissed off about the Karma system?
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Rider on December 23, 2009, 03:56:40 pm
That pissed me off. Annigilated!
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on December 23, 2009, 05:34:56 pm
  I'm pissed at the U.S. Senate for basically ruining the Health Care Reform bill.  I'm trying to think of ANYTHING they've done right in my lifetime. 
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on December 26, 2009, 12:46:24 am
  I'm pissed at the U.S. Senate for basically ruining the Health Care Reform bill.  I'm trying to think of ANYTHING they've done right in my lifetime. 

Wait, didn't they pass a Health Care Reform bill? I'm pissed and/or confused.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on December 26, 2009, 01:03:17 am
  Yeah, they passed it after I posted the above.  It was pretty badly neutered, though.  We'll see what happens when they reconcile the Senate bill with the House of Representatives' bill. 
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Nuclear on December 26, 2009, 09:37:23 am
Is it not true that all those health care people blew their budget on swine flu things?
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on December 26, 2009, 04:54:16 pm
What?
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on December 26, 2009, 11:47:31 pm
Assuming you're talking about us Europeans, no. But I really don't have a clue what you're talking about, try and be slightly more specific.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Nuclear on December 27, 2009, 09:26:08 am
Oh, well I assumed anything with "health care" in it was some how tied in with all that swine flu hysteria and about how much money the government are spending on it. I just realised how random that is, sorry for the confusion. :(

I'm pissed off because this Windows 7 Starter netbook doesn't even let you change your desktop background. I mean, I like the nostalgia factor of the boring light navy screen but it's kind of well, boring...
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on December 27, 2009, 12:22:50 pm
  I'm pissed off because Nuclear obviously hasn't picked up a newspaper in weeks.   ;)
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Sedodes on December 28, 2009, 02:14:51 am
Maybe you'd be happier if you'd, y'know, grow a pair.  I tried to explain to you some years ago the soul-corroding compromises involved in daily intimacy with another person, but you were appalled by what I was saying.  If this observation pisses you off, well, you're in good company in this thread. 

@Eth - what do you mean?  Linkie?

@Sage - no, she didn't see my thousands of posts on a computer game forum.  I told her, though.

Also, I tried "I DO WHAT I WANT, WOMAN!" very recently in fact.  Didn't lead to good things (essentially, us screaming mere inches from each others' faces).

Her main gripe is that I don't do enough housework even though I'm gone 4 days per week for work, clean up after myself when I'm home, and take care of the stepson on days when she's at work.  She has this crazy idea that I'm indebted/obligated to live up to her standards (hates my pizza deliver job BTW, "not enough ambition").  She bitches that I don't really "do" anything except work and play on the computer.  She seems to have forgotten that I this was my MO for over a decade before I met her, having more friends online than offline, and I was perfectly happy.  The joy of simplicity.  She's ruining my happiness soup by saying it's too bland and trying to force me to add spices!  What do I do?

Goddamn, even writing about this shit is pissing me off.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on December 28, 2009, 07:49:43 am
A few questions against my better judgement. Not trying to get you more pissed off, although that would certainly be keeping with the theme of this thread.

Her main gripe is that I don't do enough housework even though I'm gone 4 days per week for work,

When you say "gone four days a week", what do you actually mean? Are you actually physically not present at home for four days, or are you implying that you work four days a week? If it's the first, I can certainly understand that you can't do much housework during those days. If it's the second, I'm not sure why you think being at work relieves you of household duties unless you're working some sort of ridiculous 14 h/ day shifts.

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clean up after myself when I'm home,

This always pissed me off when I had flatmate. Unless you have some sort of scientific method of proving which dust bunnies are yours and which aren't, there's no such thing as cleaning up only after yourself in a shared household. I also assume you've accepted some sort of responsibility for the kid, so even if you do manage to determine which windows you have smudged on the outside, you need to take care of half of the mess he makes, right?

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and take care of the stepson on days when she's at work.

Just out of curiosity, how does that work? If you work four days a week, does she only work three?

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  She has this crazy idea that I'm indebted/obligated to live up to her standards

I think that marrying someone means that you do have to take the other's standards into account. Not so that you slavishly have to follow hers, but so that you need to take them somewhat into account. That works the other way as well though. Is she living up to your standards? It sounds like your both failing to take the other persons opinions into account. Might be a good place to work a discussion from.

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(hates my pizza deliver job BTW, "not enough ambition").  She bitches that I don't really "do" anything except work and play on the computer.  She seems to have forgotten that I this was my MO for over a decade before I met her, having more friends online than offline, and I was perfectly happy.  The joy of simplicity.  She's ruining my happiness soup by saying it's too bland and trying to force me to add spices!

What about all the work on your house? What about writing on your books? What about working on the car? And what about her? What does she do other than smoke dope and hang out with people who molest her feet?

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  What do I do?

Well, talking to us is pretty pointless. You're just venting frustration at people who, while somewhat sympathetic, cant change your situation in any way. What you need to do is man up, talk to your wife and be reasonable. Try looking at the situation as an outsider. Are you pulling your part of the load? Is she? Does she have unjust expectations on you? Do you unfairly expect her to accept a status quo she isn't comfortable with? You're both supposed to be adults. Communicate as such.

Anyway spending too much time writing on the internet pisses me off. I guess things do change eh?
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on December 28, 2009, 11:17:29 am
@Eth - what do you mean?  Linkie?
Female Warning Label. (http://www.star-control.com/forum/index.php/topic,1087.0.html)

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Also, I tried "I DO WHAT I WANT, WOMAN!" very recently in fact.  Didn't lead to good things (essentially, us screaming mere inches from each others' faces).
  Oo, they hate it when you call them Woman, and they hate it when you shout.   :)  I just write down on the calendar when I'm going out to do some hobby-related thing ("Gaming, Chad's House, 7 PM").  She can't argue with the calendar; it's written in black and white!  Don't make it a big fucking break for independence; just schedule something and make sure she knows about it.  "I'm doing such-and-such at this time.  I won't be available for anything else during this time."  If she starts screaming at you, just ignore her, or walk away, and repeat, "I'm doing such-and-such at this time.  I won't be available for anything else during this time."  I find that it works even better if you ask her in advance if she has any plans for the time in question. 

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Her main gripe is that I don't do enough housework even though I'm gone 4 days per week for work, clean up after myself when I'm home, and take care of the stepson on days when she's at work.
  In my experience, if a woman says a man isn't doing enough housework, he usually isn't doing enough housework.  I'd give on this one.  Offer to do some unpleasant weekly task like cleaning the bathroom or taking out the trash, and she'll probably get off your back.  A small investment of time can pay big dividends, harmony-wise. 

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She has this crazy idea that I'm indebted/obligated to live up to her standards (hates my pizza deliver job BTW, "not enough ambition").
Are you making enough money to support her and little Dweezle?  If so, she needs to mind her own business.  If not, and her job is necessary to keep the family in fish-sticks, then she may have a point.  If her objection is that Deliverators are hopelessly lower-class, then you should give her a copy of Snow Crash so she can understand how glamorous and exciting the job really is. 

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She bitches that I don't really "do" anything except work and play on the computer.  She seems to have forgotten that I this was my MO for over a decade before I met her, having more friends online than offline, and I was perfectly happy.  The joy of simplicity.  She's ruining my happiness soup by saying it's too bland and trying to force me to add spices!  What do I do?
  This is where the ethical compromises in my link above come in.  In order to "make the relationship work" you need to lie.  Lie about being happy when you're not (for instance, when she drags you to the flower show, or some shit).  Lie about being interested when you're not.  Lie and tell her she looks great in that dress. 

  Maintaining civility is the keystone to a good marriage, IMO.  Once you've abandoned civility, it can be difficult to regain it.  If you guys can't discuss your issues without screaming at each other and throwing things, you might want to consider some sort of third-party mediator like a family therapist or someone.  I know it sounds silly, but a session or two might do you guys some good. 

  If you're considering divorce, DO IT BEFORE YOU HAVE KIDS, FOR GOD'S SAKE!! 

  OK, that's all I can think of today.  Good luck, Sedodes.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Rider on December 28, 2009, 11:21:19 am
The sex is still good though, right?
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on December 28, 2009, 11:56:49 am
The sex is still good though, right?

Ah, cutting right to the chase.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: 2-23-6 on December 28, 2009, 03:22:53 pm
I'm pissed off because I've invested two years of my life into something that ended up failing and now I don't know where to go. I mean literally, I could go anywhere and do anything, and I have no idea what my real and true passions are, other than the fact that I want to do something "creative" and other such approximations. Fuck. I think I'm going to stop visiting this board.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on December 28, 2009, 08:00:33 pm
Shit, man, why not just do the same thing, only keep your eyes on the "sales cycle" this time?
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on December 29, 2009, 06:07:38 am
I'm pissed off because I've invested two years of my life into something that ended up failing

Look at it from the bright side! If you don't man up and do something new and different, you wont just have wasted two years, you'll have wasted your entire life! What's two years compared to that? Up and get5 them tiger, atta boy!
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Nuclear on December 29, 2009, 03:00:33 pm
What you need is one of those cool inspirational posters. You know, the ones that have a picture of a dolphin or a hang glider on them that say something like "courage" or "reflectivness" or "financial security". Trust me, staring at those for 4 minutes can make anyone feel better! ;D
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: 2-23-6 on December 29, 2009, 03:29:09 pm
I don't have the capital to tackle the longer sales cycles.

However, I am planning to convert a soviet board game to a computer game while I'm looking for a job, so things aren't terrible. And then, a few years later, I will try, try again.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on December 30, 2009, 04:55:15 am
a dolphin on a hang glider

That's what I first read and that would be awesome.

I don't have the capital to tackle the longer sales cycles.

How long a sales cycle can "software that downsizes people" have? You sell it, they fire people, done deal. Or do you mean that it's too far between crises to keep you afloat?
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: 2-23-6 on December 30, 2009, 03:36:00 pm
How long a sales cycle can "software that downsizes people" have? You sell it, they fire people, done deal. Or do you mean that it's too far between crises to keep you afloat?
Grumble, grumble! My software doesn't downsize people, it helps companies who are ABOUT to fire people to stay afloat and possibly not fire them. An entirely different can of worms. And the direct answer to your question is 12 months and up.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Alen on December 31, 2009, 03:53:25 am
a dolphin on a hang glider

That's what I first read and that would be awesome.


I saw that too, I think that would best describe courage, since that dolphin needs a great deal of it to attempt such a feat.  :D
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on December 31, 2009, 06:31:34 am
I'm pissed off that of all goddamned times Ibrahim Skupolli had pick New Years Eve to shoot up a store in Esbo (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1239610/Finland-mall-shooting-Gunman-Ibrahim-Shkupolli-opens-Sello-shopping-centre-Espoo.html), Finland. And since it seems he was just out to kill his ex-wife, I'm extra pissed off that he had to kill five people all in all before offing himself.

On the other hand, I'm slightly thankful that he seems to be an immigrant form ex-Yugoslavia. The True Finns are still going to take the chance to start a "Foreigners: Why do we need them again?" debate. But if he had been black, or Arabic (especially after the funeral hijack (http://sheikyermami.com/2009/12/28/finland-muslims-hijack-christian-funeral/) last week) the coming storm would've been much worse.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Alen on December 31, 2009, 09:25:45 am
Why exactly would Finland want to stop immigration, Is the country over populated?
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on December 31, 2009, 10:26:58 am
  They're afraid that too many happy sober people will lower the tone.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on December 31, 2009, 05:09:12 pm
Why exactly would Finland want to stop immigration, Is the country over populated?

Well... There are plenty of reasons to be pro immigration or anti.immigration. To make it easy for you I'll give you the main arguments of both sides:

Pro immigration:

It will bring innovation and new ideas. Besides, our workforce is far too old and will be retiring in a few years and we desperately need people to replace them and also to fill the menial jobs that Finns feel are below their dignity and would rather go on social services than take.

Anti immigration:

Darkies, islam, kalevala (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalevala).
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Zeracles on January 02, 2010, 06:28:34 pm
The smell of stale blood pisses me off, and it can be a difficult smell to eradicate once you're hands have been soaked in a bath tub full of it.

now I don't know where to go. I mean literally, I could go anywhere and do anything, and I have no idea what my real and true passions are, other than the fact that I want to do something "creative" and other such approximations.
More precision, please! Remember, it has to be something that earns millions to get TFB (or thousands for cheap floozies) to make a new Star Control :)
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Nuclear on January 02, 2010, 07:03:56 pm
it can be a difficult smell to eradicate once you're hands have been soaked in a bath tub full of it.

Now just why are soaking your hands in a bathtub full of smelly, stale blood?

I'm pissed off at Newtons law because I slipped on some newspapers and fell on my ass (And I damn felt it!)
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: 2-23-6 on January 02, 2010, 07:37:45 pm
Who knows, who knows. I thought about getting work as a consultant, but they work 17 hours a day.

So right now, it appears that I will most likely find employment as an energy analyst. Huzzah!
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on January 03, 2010, 07:29:00 am
So right now, it appears that I will most likely find employment as an energy analyst. Huzzah!

Man, you're like some advanced form of Rain Man without the problems. I can't even count all the different jobs you've posted about doing any more. That pisses me off because I'm stuck doing same old, same old.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Sage on January 03, 2010, 07:52:03 am
Now that I have one pervading thing pissing me off, I finally have something to focus my forum-rage at.

Sickness pisses me off. Specifically, my body's reaction to it. Why is it when I have muscle aches, fevers, body chills, vomiting, and coughs that my body has to go and make it worse while trying to make it better. All because my esophageal mucus turns to liquid crud. It drips out of my nose, clogs my nostrils, gives me a headache, clogs my Eustachian tubes therefore locking the pressure in my inner ears and increasing my headaches, makes involuntary breathing nearly impossible, making sleep nearly impossible. This is the third day of the sickness, and I've been awake for just under 7/8ths of that time because of stupid mucus.

Shit like this is making trans-humanism, sticking my still-live brain in a jar, or undergoing the unholy process of becoming a lich sound tempting. I have a million hangups about mortality, but none of them have yet drove me to create an invincible robot body. Stupid yellow-green throat crud should not be the thing that pushes me over the edge.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Dabir on January 03, 2010, 07:58:02 am
All that stuff you listed before the green gloop is also your body making it worse to make it better, some as a result of each other. But damn, that sounds nasty. Maybe you're allergic to illness?

+1 Karma to Sage for enduring that crap.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Nuclear on January 03, 2010, 12:27:51 pm
I here you man, I've had this horrible cold for almost 2 months and it just won't damn go away! Maby it's not a cold at all....
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: fossaman on January 03, 2010, 01:00:56 pm
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sticking my still-live brain in a jar
Speaking as someone with cyborg parts already in place: Don't do it, man! You'd soon be missing your gooey bits.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Sage on January 03, 2010, 01:48:47 pm
Speaking as someone with cyborg parts already in place: Don't do it, man! You'd soon be missing your gooey bits.
You're talking about CS right? Because if so remember I am a cyborg in that scenario as well. If not, elaboration is required!

I guess the other option is to subtract my intrinsic field and then summon the massive willpower required to assemble a new form, one atom at a time. :) Then I can make my bits as squishy or not as I want!

Minor update: Most of the other symptoms are slowing down, but the vomiting that originally was a one-time occurrence has now become the predominant issue. Fortunately I was able to get a few hours of sleep between my last post and this one, but further sleep now is unlikely.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on January 03, 2010, 05:08:01 pm
Sounds like the swine flu.  Get well soon!
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: 2-23-6 on January 03, 2010, 06:54:11 pm
Yes, I've also been sick, but whiskey and tea seems to have solved it.

Man, you're like some advanced form of Rain Man without the problems. I can't even count all the different jobs you've posted about doing any more. That pisses me off because I'm stuck doing same old, same old.

I have worked as:

A website designer
An aircraft electronics technologist
Kaizen specialist in a japanese car plant
Systems admin in a lubricant plant
Systems analyst in an oil refinery
Radio programmer/broadcaster
Marketing consultant
Entrepreneur
Non-profit board member
WWII aircraft restoration volunteer (B-25 Mitchell bomber)
Local nuclear and plasma society chairman
Snowmobile engine intake designer
CNC lathe designer

Also some minor robotics while in high school. I think that's roughly it. I've also been accepted into business school for this September, I'm not sure whether I'll be going or not.

Right now it looks like I'm either going to go into technology consulting/enterprise software or power markets analysis. I'm going to be also releasing a game in 6 months alongside that.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: fossaman on January 03, 2010, 11:14:51 pm
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elaboration is required

I've got one of these (http://www.medtronic.com/your-health/gastroparesis/device/index.htm) thingies embedded in my abdomen. It's very useful, but because it's a foreign object it's just irritating at times. The scar tissue around it probably doesn't help.

Oh hey, look at that! I found something to be pissed off about! (Not really)
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on January 03, 2010, 11:23:15 pm
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elaboration is required

I've got one of these (http://www.medtronic.com/your-health/gastroparesis/device/index.htm) thingies embedded in my abdomen. It's very useful, but because it's a foreign object it's just irritating at times. The scar tissue around it probably doesn't help.

Oh hey, look at that! I found something to be pissed off about! (Not really)

Heh, we can be pissed off cyborg buddies then since my  makes an annoying noise. It's still better than the alternative though.  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_heart_valveartificial aorta valve[/url)
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: fossaman on January 03, 2010, 11:39:19 pm
Awesome. I always wanted a pissed off cyborg buddy.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Draxas on January 04, 2010, 10:41:02 am
I'm pissed that I had to come back to work. I had 10 days off, but it barely felt like more than a weekend went by.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Zeracles on January 04, 2010, 07:02:53 pm
Now just why are soaking your hands in a bathtub full of smelly, stale blood?
Our fridge broke on Christmas morning, which was right before a weekend, and the following monday was also a public holiday. Fill in the blanks.

Sickness pisses me off.
I haven't been sick since late 2000. Seriously, not even anything small. Which is a little frightening, I assume my next little sniffle will spell my doom.

Eating pisses me off. I hope to someday join the other metallo men in this thread with photovoltaic skin.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Dragon on January 07, 2010, 12:35:56 am
Eating pisses me off. I hope to someday join the other metallo men in this thread with photovoltaic skin.
Yeah, I'm still waiting for:

(http://thestrategicretreat.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/bchow1.jpg)

That'd be a step in the right direction.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Sedodes on January 11, 2010, 05:40:26 pm
I've just launched my videography service this week and already have 12 clients and 150 hours worth of work lined up through the end of January.  I'm not pissed off at all right now...

... and that pisses me off most of all  >:(
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on January 11, 2010, 07:17:42 pm
Good lord, you've started with a bang!  Nice work.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on January 12, 2010, 09:23:54 am
I've just launched my videography service this week and already have 12 clients and 150 hours worth of work lined up through the end of January.  I'm not pissed off at all right now...

I'm pissed off that there are no links or explanations here.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Bleeding Star on January 12, 2010, 09:40:53 am
At last the fucking snow is gone, and now we have water shortages. What sort of implausibly incompetent government/city council can engineer water shortages in Ireland? Fuckers.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Dabir on January 12, 2010, 03:21:47 pm
Lucky bastard, we still have snow lying around. One of my friends has almost no grip left on his shoes so you can imagine what that's like for him, but more importantly there's assholes everywhere who seem to think that a short, squat person walking around in a long dark coat with a black scarf and a black trilby is some sort of target for snowballs. I think I have a right to be pissed off here. Also, a couple of days ago, there were 13, 14-year-old morons hanging around right next to a church, swearing at and then snowballing anything they saw.

"Hey look at that dog."
"That's a f**king racing dog."
"HEY NICE DOG" *lob*

Also, BS: The same government who has road blockages while the Transport Minister suns himself on the continent, or something like that.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Nuclear on January 13, 2010, 05:35:15 pm
I actually miss the snow, I didn't see a tiny bit of frozen precipitation at all during the whole durn winter season, course there's the bonus for driving.....
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Dabir on January 16, 2010, 12:58:12 am
So, the snow's retreating. What do we get in its place?

RAIN.

A happy bunny I am not, when I've got to trudge through a slushy environment. Now it's twice as slippery with the rain pooling on the ice, and it goes up your trousers when you walk through it. Oh, and whenever there's rain, at my school we get The Puddle. About 12 feet by 5 along the 5-foot wide path into school that has a fence on one side and some muddy grass on the other. Fortunately we don't have school today, being a weekend, but I saw it beginning to form yesterday. I might charge my phone and see if I can get blurry pictures of it if it does turn up.

(Note: All measurements are being worked out from memory here).
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Megagun on January 16, 2010, 12:34:50 pm
Snow just got back over here.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Cedric6014 on January 17, 2010, 01:36:56 am
Spare a thought for us here in Wgtn, NZ. Rain, wind and 15 deg C. In the middle of summer. For 5 days in a row

At least you can expect nice weather in the europe and america in your summer

And that really pisses me off
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on January 17, 2010, 01:55:38 am
I'd complain about the weather here in Sweden but you know... It pisses me off more that Haiti just got wiped off the map. Man, that's rough.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Rider on January 17, 2010, 09:44:14 am
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It pisses me off more that Haiti just got wiped off the map.

Wait, what? Why wasn't I told? Seriously I'm pissed off that the world's mayor events somehow don't reach me anymore.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Cedric6014 on January 17, 2010, 10:19:35 am
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It pisses me off more that Haiti just got wiped off the map.

Wait, what? Why wasn't I told? Seriously I'm pissed off that the world's mayor events somehow don't reach me anymore.

Geez have you been under a rock
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Sage on January 17, 2010, 02:09:05 pm
What's hilarious is that I deliberately put myself in a news blackout (various reasons) and still knew about Haiti. Not details mind you, but it didn't take long to find out about it.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on January 17, 2010, 02:27:08 pm
Wait, what? Why wasn't I told? Seriously I'm pissed off that the world's mayor events somehow don't reach me anymore.
I'm pissed off that you apparantly can't be bothered to glance at a newspaper now and then. 
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Alen on January 17, 2010, 04:17:43 pm
Im pissed off that probably a huge chunk the people that died in Haiti probably could have been saved with some antibiotics to stop infections.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Rider on January 18, 2010, 07:40:04 am
Wait, what? Why wasn't I told? Seriously I'm pissed off that the world's mayor events somehow don't reach me anymore.
I'm pissed off that you apparantly can't be bothered to glance at a newspaper now and then. 

I'm pissed off that people seem to assume that not reading a newspaper is somehow an effort versus not reading one. "Everyone does every now and again, do you, like, avoid newspapers or something? You weirdo!"
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on January 18, 2010, 08:53:35 am
This is actually interesting. Are you telling me, that in Belgium you have no newspaper stands with headlines on them in stores and on the street. There are no radio channels on in any stores or malls? No televisions in any bars you frequent? And no one you know has mentioend this even in passing.

the reason people assume your expending effort to not find out things like this is that they are virtually everywhere. People talk about them, every paper is full of it, headlines are screaming, radio channels beaming, rescue collection in full blow in most cities. But somehow, you evade it all? Either you're only very dimly aware of your surroundings, or you need to get out more.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Draxas on January 18, 2010, 11:03:49 am
I feel like I should be pissed off about the Haiti situation, but I can't muster the anger because it's just far too depressing. I watched 60 Minutes last night (no idea if those outside of the US know what that is; it's a weekly news program that focuses almost exclusively on human interest stories and exposes) and they had reporters on site, following around doctors and soldiers trying to deliver relief aid. The images were beyond disturbing; at one point they took a walk down a street nearby the makeshift hospital where they're trying to treat the injured, and a bulldozer was shoveling hundreds of bodies into a dump truck so they could be taken to a mass grave. When asked about it, the doctor they were interviewing at the time said that it's all they can do to try to keep the public health issue under control. And that was just one street.

And then I caught a glimpse of CNN about an hour ago, and apparently full blown rioting has started up today. Because I guess that's the best way to express your grief and help your fellow man, cause destruction to whatever is still left standing. :(
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on January 18, 2010, 11:21:19 am
And then I caught a glimpse of CNN about an hour ago, and apparently full blown rioting has started up today. Because I guess that's the best way to express your grief and help your fellow man, cause destruction to whatever is still left standing. :(
I'm pretty sure that riot doesn't involve any sort of rational decision-making.  It's quite common in these sorts of situations.  Hell, IIRC there were food riots in Haiti a year or two ago, even without the earthquake to deal with.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Rider on January 18, 2010, 04:43:51 pm
This is actually interesting. Are you telling me, that in Belgium you have no newspaper stands with headlines on them in stores and on the street.

First off, I'm Dutch which makes me a native to The Netherlands, not Belgium, and no, not particularly.

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There are no radio channels on in any stores or malls?

Yes, but they play exclusively pop-music.

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No televisions in any bars you frequent?

None. IMO in a bar, you don't need TV if you've got beer and company.

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And no one you know has mentioned this even in passing.

No they haven't actually. I guess there's not much to it but "it's horrible" "yes indeed".

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the reason people assume your expending effort to not find out things like this is that they are virtually everywhere. People talk about them, every paper is full of it, headlines are screaming, radio channels beaming, rescue collection in full blow in most cities. But somehow, you evade it all? Either you're only very dimly aware of your surroundings, or you need to get out more.

Well here's the thing, I don't watch any TV myself. I don't listen to the radio because the gross of it is horrible local pop-music which I personally can't stand for the most part. Newspapers here aren't sold on the street as far as I'm aware, not like I see it portrayed in films at least. And I have not seen a single effort where I'm from to aid these people.

Maybe the people I hang out with don't give a hoot, maybe it's abnormal to shut off the all-powerful advertising machine known as popular media, maybe I've accidentally avoided all the circuits where this news propagates and maybe, just maybe, I don't get to see any of this because I honestly don't really care for it. I mean, what's the use of me knowing thousands of people died somewhere off where I can't help them? How are they better off with me knowing about that? How does it help me that I'm aware of their pain and suffering? Will it help me be a better person to those around me?

I don't know man. The more I spend time thinking about this, the more I'm seeing that this is a pretty good position to be in.

Also, on a thinly related note, I'm pissed off that I'm not pissed off regularly enough to visit this thread as much as I'd like, being that it's pretty interesting. And I'm not even that pissed off about that, more like vaguely displeased.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on January 18, 2010, 08:53:52 pm
I don't know man. The more I spend time thinking about this, the more I'm seeing that this is a pretty good position to be in.
I'm pretty sure you're right, actually.  It pisses me off that you're obviously so much more well-adjusted than I am!   >:(
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: fossaman on January 18, 2010, 10:32:12 pm
I have to agree with Rider. The fact that I distrust news media is just gravy on the cake. Err...frosting on the mashed potatoes? Something like that.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on January 19, 2010, 11:34:37 am
Whoops, sorry about the identity crisis. anyway, I still find it amazing that you can completely avoid news. If I go to the store to buy food, the papers are right by the checkout line, with bolded headlines. Even if I tried to block them out, I'd probably notice most of them. There's radio on the buses, and the people I know read papers, so we'll often mention stuff at lunch or coffee breaks. Back when I was in Uni there was always someone browsing a news site during any given lecture. and my dad sends me all the headlines from his local paper for some reason.

Just gliding through a world buzzing with news seems alien to me, but I suppose if it works then go you? As for why you should know, I guess it's a philosophical question. What good does it do you to know anything except the basics? As Sedodes said, everything except the real basics is mental masturbation anyway. But I suppose you'd know of the collection for rescue efforts at least.

On a related note, I wonder if this is the death of democracy. It's hard to have an educated public vote on issues if they don't even notice them.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Sedodes on January 19, 2010, 11:55:09 pm
I was having a discussion today about life and what separates living from nonliving things.  Someone said that life isn't a scientific term, but rather a philosophical term currently defined by scientific means.  He continued to say that it's as logical to consider fire "alive" as it is to consider human beings "smoldering grease fires."  I'm just pissed off that I'd never thought describing life like that before.

Also, the U.S. is ending the war on drugs (drugs won, BTW).  I'm pissed that this hasn't happened sooner.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Rider on January 20, 2010, 01:21:07 am
Also, the U.S. is ending the war on drugs (drugs won, BTW).  I'm pissed that this hasn't happened sooner.

Link? :)
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Bleeding Star on January 20, 2010, 02:43:38 am
Spare a thought for us here in Wgtn, NZ. Rain, wind and 15 deg C. In the middle of summer. For 5 days in a row

Yeah, I heard it's been pretty miserable. I thought you were from north of the Bombay hills, though.

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At least you can expect nice weather in the europe and america in your summer

Not in Ireland, you can't!

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Lukipela says:
Whoops, sorry about the identity crisis. anyway, I still find it amazing that you can completely avoid news.

I get a more limited version of this. I watch BBC or Sky News, and read the Guardian (Irish TV is unbelievably bad), so often I'm shockingly ignorant of local affairs. I'd known about the floods in the UK for days before I realised that the same thing was happening over in the west of Ireland as well. Likewise, with the shitty snowy weather. Of course, that became hard to ignore once it actually started snowing over here.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on January 23, 2010, 01:06:42 am
Speaking of Haiti, I'm pissed that some people think that solar powered bible (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/01/19/2796032.htm)s are more important than food and medicines.

Also, who thought engraving Christian scripture on the sights used by troops in Afghanistan (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/us/22guns.html) was a good idea? Seriously? Why don't we just go all out and start forcefully baptising them with holy bullets?

Stupid religious people pisses me off beyond belief, even though I'm religious myself.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Sage on January 23, 2010, 02:46:19 am
Yeah, I'm not a fan of stupid religious people myself. But what cracks me up is that biblical references have been on these scopes long before they got their first military contract in 1995. People are only now making a fuss about it. And it's amazing how (to borrow a word from the modern lexicon) butthurt some people are getting over this.

On the other hand, go separation of church and state! Even if it really is kind of a lame instance of such.

What pisses me off are people's unending desire to be at one another's throats. The fact that we continue to battle one another over stupid and petty differences is a major problem, when we are all fundamentally the same on some level.

And I'll continue getting pissed off at people for getting pissed off at each other, and so the cycle perpetuates...
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on January 23, 2010, 06:50:42 am
Yeah, I'm not a fan of stupid religious people myself. But what cracks me up is that biblical references have been on these scopes long before they got their first military contract in 1995. People are only now making a fuss about it. And it's amazing how (to borrow a word from the modern lexicon) butthurt some people are getting over this.

Really? That makes the whole thing even more absurd, but more understandable I guess. It's not verses for the darkies, it's just thinking that putting scripture on killing instruments is a good idea then.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: fossaman on January 23, 2010, 01:34:59 pm
I don't know. A good 'Thou shalt not kill' here and there might be practical. Not so much for soldiers, though.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Alen on January 24, 2010, 08:27:47 pm
The only scripture that should be on a scope for a gun is the one Samuel Jackson says in Pulp Fiction.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Bleeding Star on January 25, 2010, 03:03:32 am
For those too lazy to read the article, the biblical verses inscribed on the guns are apparently:

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2COR4:6 is an apparent reference to Second Corinthians 4:6 of the New Testament, which reads: "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

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John 8:12, referred to on the gun sights as JN8:12, reads, "Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

Plus a few other bits and pieces. Sadly, nothing about shooting infidels or any ironic "thou shalt not kill"s, as fossa mentioned. The references are pretty cryptic - if I'd seem JN8:12 on my gun sight I doubt I would have got the message at all. Quite why the manufacturers thought this was a good idea I can't tell - perhaps they thought that they'd provide divine guidance? Perhaps they could diversify and issue some Quranic verse for islamic soldiers, or passages from Dawkins for the atheists?

I know that the NZ military is pissed and going to remove the verses, though apparently it's not so simple as just grinding them off. Fortunately, the NZ army only has four guns, so it won't be too big a task.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: oddSTAR on January 25, 2010, 09:41:04 am
On a related note, I wonder if this is the death of democracy. It's hard to have an educated public vote on issues if they don't even notice them.

Media itself will be the death of democracy, if you ask me.  It pisses me off that the media (in the US, at least) has gladly adopted the role of telling us what we should care about these days in the name of ratings and money.  Haiti is certainly an awful tragedy, but I saw a news show the other day who sent a reporter there to locate an orphan who was supposed to be adopted by American parents.  Excuse me, but isn't that actually manufacturing news rather than reporting on it?  We regularly have national news coverage of some missing child or nutty individual who went on a shooting spree, for example.  Can anyone tell my why all 300+ million of us Americans should all simultaneously care about what happens to one lost child that we don't even know and waste countless hours hearing about it when hundreds if not thousands of them disappear every year?!  It's all done to try and boost ratings and profits, I'm sure, but it also seems like an awfully convenient distraction from other more important things that are going on in the world.  Trust me, democracy requires more than passively listening to what the media has chosen to tell us about today, because I guarantee whatever it is has been chosen as part of someone else's agenda... 

</rant off> Whew, that felt nice! :)  Yeah, I like this thread.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on January 26, 2010, 11:59:08 am
I'm not sure I get you. Even in a large tragedy there are always distinct personal tragedies. I mean, there are plenty of stories of survivors being pulled out of the rubble. Why are those more worthy of attention than stories of people gone missing?

The media may often be biased, but I don't think it's the death of democracy. Without a free press, a lot of nasty stuff would go unnoticed.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: oddSTAR on January 27, 2010, 06:31:46 am
The press is not free, it's owned by fewer and fewer mega-corporations run by people who have their own political and financial agendas.  Each one of them has a distinct bias, some more obvious than others.  My point is that news is supposed to be objective and report the facts, not attempt to pick and choose stories to elicit the greatest emotional response in order to boost their ratings at the expense of other more legitimate and important items.  That's yellow journalism and it's rampant in pretty much all of the major news outlets that I'm aware of in the US.  I don't want to hear about "personal tragedies" or "amazing survivors" or anything more than the basic facts so that I can draw my own conculsions--I don't need them drawn for me or to be told how to feel about things or what I should care about.  Lately, a lot of news programs invite Joe Schmoe off the street to provide his own brilliant "insights" about an event.  Why should I care what he thinks?  If I wanted that, I'd watch daytime talk shows or the asinine pseudo-news programs they have like Nancy Grace or Glenn Beck or even The Daily Show (which I like, but don't watch to get informed).  I don't know if you are familiar with any of those programs, but they're only a shade worse than what gets referred to as legitimate news programs these days.  It's a big world, and there is a lot more going on that is important to know about than how many women Tiger Woods has slept with, who is attending Michael Jackson's funeral, or even that some family in the US has successfully adopted a single child in Haiti.  Those things are absolutely irrelevant to our lives, and serve only to distract us all from everything else that's going on, including plenty of that "nasty stuff" you mention, but also many good things.  It's difficult to believe that spending days upon days of "news" coverage on superficial nonsense could possibly serve to strengthen democracy or do anything at all to educate the populace, from my perspective...  It's actually quite frustrating for me, and I don't like feeling like I'm being contantly manipulated by the media--but I do--so I welcome any counter-opinions on the virtues of this kind of press coverage.

Addendum: I don't know if I addressed your actual question, so...

"Why are those more worthy of attention than stories of people gone missing?"

They're not.  In fact, neither of those stories is worthy of attention on a national or international level.  In Haiti, we need to know that a 7.0 magnitude earthquake struck Port au Prince and caused widespread destruction and killed thousands.  We need to know generally about relief efforts underway and how we can assist if we are so inclined.  We do not need to know about individuals at all, unless it's someone of particular importance.   As for missing persons, we don't need to know at all unless it's a local story or, again, someone of particular importance that would affect us on a national or international level.  Anything else should be reserved for local media coverage only.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on January 27, 2010, 01:18:58 pm
The press is not free, it's owned by fewer and fewer mega-corporations run by people who have their own political and financial agendas.  Each one of them has a distinct bias, some more obvious than others.  My point is that news is supposed to be objective and report the facts, not attempt to pick and choose stories to elicit the greatest emotional response in order to boost their ratings at the expense of other more legitimate and important items.  That's yellow journalism and it's rampant in pretty much all of the major news outlets that I'm aware of in the US.

I wonder if there ever was a free and impartial press the way you seem to think. Most publications are biased, one way or another. I doubt things were different in the 1950s, 1900s, 1850s or whenever. Perhaps the bias is simply more obvious today?

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I don't want to hear about "personal tragedies" or "amazing survivors" or anything more than the basic facts so that I can draw my own conculsions--I don't need them drawn for me or to be told how to feel about things or what I should care about.

I don't see why your personal opinion here matters more than that of people who like human interest stories. You seem to view them as a clumsy attempt to direct peoples reactions as the editors intend. But to a lot of people, news from far away places isn't "real" without a human angle. Hearing that a absurdly large number of people have died somewhere is an abstract fact that doesn't seem real to many until they've actually seen it happen to a person, not just a city or a nation. If that helps them contextualise the information somehow, then surely that is good?

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Lately, a lot of news programs invite Joe Schmoe off the street to provide his own brilliant "insights" about an event.  Why should I care what he thinks?  If I wanted that, I'd watch daytime talk shows or the asinine pseudo-news programs they have like Nancy Grace or Glenn Beck or even The Daily Show (which I like, but don't watch to get informed).  I don't know if you are familiar with any of those programs, but they're only a shade worse than what gets referred to as legitimate news programs these days.

I know Conan O'Brien if it helps, he's a big hero in Finland. Pity that Peaock company screwed him over. As for the rest, I really can't comment since I don't follow American media outlets much.

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It's a big world, and there is a lot more going on that is important to know about than how many women Tiger Woods has slept with, who is attending Michael Jackson's funeral, or even that some family in the US has successfully adopted a single child in Haiti.  Those things are absolutely irrelevant to our lives, and serve only to distract us all from everything else that's going on, including plenty of that "nasty stuff" you mention, but also many good things.

Please explain to me how the knowledge that x million people died in y catastrophe on x continent impacts your life in a greater way than finding out that x celebrity drove y car into z store. Neither impacts you in the slightest, it's what you choose to do with the information that matters. the media outlets provide the sort of information people want, not what people need.

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It's difficult to believe that spending days upon days of "news" coverage on superficial nonsense could possibly serve to strengthen democracy or do anything at all to educate the populace, from my perspective...  It's actually quite frustrating for me, and I don't like feeling like I'm being contantly manipulated by the media--but I do--so I welcome any counter-opinions on the virtues of this kind of press coverage.

But it's not a black and white situation is it? I mean, the fact that some low-brow media outlets are doing Michael Jackson stories doesn't simultaneously mean that the BBC can't cover Copenhagen talks. I'll happily agree that there is a lot of stuff in the news that isn't of much interest to me, but it's not like it automatically cancels out the interesting stuff. The existence of the blight known as the Daily Mail doesn't mean that all other newspapers in Britain disappear.

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Addendum: I don't know if I addressed your actual question, so...

"Why are those more worthy of attention than stories of people gone missing?"

They're not.  In fact, neither of those stories is worthy of attention on a national or international level.  In Haiti, we need to know that a 7.0 magnitude earthquake struck Port au Prince and caused widespread destruction and killed thousands.  We need to know generally about relief efforts underway and how we can assist if we are so inclined.  We do not need to know about individuals at all, unless it's someone of particular importance.   As for missing persons, we don't need to know at all unless it's a local story or, again, someone of particular importance that would affect us on a national or international level.  Anything else should be reserved for local media coverage only.

Now this is interesting. So tell me, who decides what we need to know? the State? the free market? A cabal of intellectuals somewhere? I think this is the point of the free press. You get a lot of tripe, but you get all sorts of points of view. If someone sits down and decides what you need to know, then you'll be at their (possibly biased) mercy.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Bleeding Star on January 27, 2010, 02:02:56 pm
I'd add my own two cents, but Lukipela seems to have covered all the bases...

So to start a new rant, I hate having a cold. Fucking unpleasant, but not serious enough to take any time off work...
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Alen on January 28, 2010, 10:39:22 am
I hate it when It rains then flash freezes and the snows after. How the hell are you supposed to walk through that shit?
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on January 28, 2010, 11:07:52 am
I hate it when It rains then flash freezes and the snows after. How the hell are you supposed to walk through that shit?

Some of us biked to work in snowy weather on Wednesday and then had to watch a huge snowstorm bury every road in town before we could attempt to drag our bike home. That pissed me off. Although it was kinda fun too.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Zeracles on January 28, 2010, 09:15:40 pm
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It pisses me off more that Haiti just got wiped off the map.
Wait, what? Why wasn't I told? Seriously I'm pissed off that the world's mayor events somehow don't reach me anymore.
Meh, maybe you really don't need to know, but either way your government is probably handing over millions from your taxes to help with the relief effort :P

I still find it amazing that you can completely avoid news.
Hard news has real entertainment value, I can listen to it for hours without tiring of it. I also agree with the sentiment of a lot of what oddSTAR is saying, but wishing everyone would be interested in interesting stuff is somewhat futile.

On a related note, I wonder if this is the death of democracy. It's hard to have an educated public vote on issues if they don't even notice them.
They force us to vote, here. Which pisses me off whenever there's an election.

I was having a discussion today about life and what separates living from nonliving things.  Someone said that life isn't a scientific term, but rather a philosophical term currently defined by scientific means.  He continued to say that it's as logical to consider fire "alive" as it is to consider human beings "smoldering grease fires."  I'm just pissed off that I'd never thought describing life like that before.
There is a physics definition that involves defining a quantum of life as an ``observer" in the quantum-mechanical sense. Long story short, under this definition, anything lives if it generates entropy because this happens whenever an observation is made.

I hate it when It rains then flash freezes and the snows after. How the hell are you supposed to walk through that shit?
Some of us biked to work in snowy weather on Wednesday and then had to watch a huge snowstorm bury every road in town before we could attempt to drag our bike home. That pissed me off. Although it was kinda fun too.
Wow, the worst that's ever happened to me is the tide coming in and submerging the footpath.

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Sedodes warned for flaming.
I'm pissed that I missed whatever this was about. Precis, anyone?
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on January 29, 2010, 12:52:32 am
  Sedodes swooped in, called someone a name, and disappeared.  Nothing particularly interesting about it, except I really don't like trying to discipline one of my best internet friends.  In fact it pisses me off!!!
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Cedric6014 on January 29, 2010, 04:22:17 am
It pisses me off that Eth is on a seemingly unstoppable march towards nirvana.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Bleeding Star on January 29, 2010, 04:26:23 am
I'm pissed off that Cedric hasn't updated us on the undoubtedly hilarious antics that occurred at his bachelor party.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on January 29, 2010, 07:01:53 am
I'm pissed off that Cedric hasn't updated us on the undoubtedly hilarious antics that occurred at his bachelor party.

Ditto
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: oddSTAR on January 29, 2010, 08:05:58 am
I wonder if there ever was a free and impartial press the way you seem to think. Most publications are biased, one way or another. I doubt things were different in the 1950s, 1900s, 1850s or whenever. Perhaps the bias is simply more obvious today?

Granted, but I don't think I said it used to be better.  I'm saying it should aspire to be impartial, not that it's ever really been that way.

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I don't see why your personal opinion here matters more than that of people who like human interest stories. You seem to view them as a clumsy attempt to direct peoples reactions as the editors intend. But to a lot of people, news from far away places isn't "real" without a human angle. Hearing that a absurdly large number of people have died somewhere is an abstract fact that doesn't seem real to many until they've actually seen it happen to a person, not just a city or a nation. If that helps them contextualise the information somehow, then surely that is good?

It's not my opinion that matters, it's the integrity of the news being reported.  There are other sources for human interest stories than the mainstream news programs, and that's as it should be.  For the record, I don't think they're clumsy at presenting those stories at all, I think they're actually quite clever (read as: manipulative).  However, when news media focuses on stories of individuals in the case of a widespread catastrophe, you lose context rather than gain it.  Information like that doesn't generalize, nor do I think people need it to understand the overall impact of an event.  What you do gain is empathy, which may seem a noble thing, but is a far cry from objectivity and is not the purpose of the news.  Most news programs seem to have embraced that, however, because it's more interesting and it sells.

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I know Conan O'Brien if it helps, he's a big hero in Finland. Pity that Peaock company screwed him over. As for the rest, I really can't comment since I don't follow American media outlets much.

Fair enough, and I'm totally with you on Conan.

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Please explain to me how the knowledge that x million people died in y catastrophe on x continent impacts your life in a greater way than finding out that x celebrity drove y car into z store. Neither impacts you in the slightest, it's what you choose to do with the information that matters. the media outlets provide the sort of information people want, not what people need.

Good point.  I'll admit that it gave me pause.  I imagine that you're playing devil's advocate here and not actually suggesting that the two examples you cite are equally important...or are you?  Would you rate the two as equal events since neither directly impacts you or does one have more innate value?  I'm not sure how to quantify the relative importance of two events as their significance will always be subjective, but there is obviously some system by which it is determined by the media when they decide whether or not an item is newsworthy, right?  Do you suspect that is a carefully measured calculation or perhaps an off-the-cuff decision by some senior editor?  My guess would be that it depends on which item will attract more viewers and therefore result in more advertising revenue.  It's too bad that what people want and what they need are so infrequently the same thing.  Like an addiction, that kind of discrepancy can destroy a person...or a nation...or a planet.

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But it's not a black and white situation is it? I mean, the fact that some low-brow media outlets are doing Michael Jackson stories doesn't simultaneously mean that the BBC can't cover Copenhagen talks. I'll happily agree that there is a lot of stuff in the news that isn't of much interest to me, but it's not like it automatically cancels out the interesting stuff. The existence of the blight known as the Daily Mail doesn't mean that all other newspapers in Britain disappear.

But what if the majority of news outlets elected to follow the formula embraced by the Daily Mail?  My complaint is that almost every option for news in the US has decided that "low-brow" is good enough.  I occasionally get to listen to the BBC (at pretty odd hours around here) and I can tell you without reservation that they do a better job (by my standards) at news coverage than ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC and FOX.  It's likely that we can't really debate my specific criticisms because you're not often exposed to the American media, and that's okay.  You've made some good points, but I still stand by my opinion.

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Now this is interesting. So tell me, who decides what we need to know? the State? the free market? A cabal of intellectuals somewhere? I think this is the point of the free press. You get a lot of tripe, but you get all sorts of points of view. If someone sits down and decides what you need to know, then you'll be at their (possibly biased) mercy.

Here you mistake me completely.  Who decides that now?  I am not by any means arguing against the merits of a free press...quite the opposite.  I am merely stating my opinion that (in the US, at least) the media in general are doing a pathetic job of prioritizing their news stories and that they are guilty of frequently engaging in sensationalism for profit...which (still) pisses me off.

Sometimes, Luki, you take all the fun out of being pissed off... ;)
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: oddSTAR on January 29, 2010, 08:08:26 am
I also agree with the sentiment of a lot of what oddSTAR is saying, but wishing everyone would be interested in interesting stuff is somewhat futile.

I think you're misunderstanding me (which pisses me off?) because I think all news should be boring but important... ;)
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Draxas on January 29, 2010, 10:29:36 am
But what if the majority of news outlets elected to follow the formula embraced by the Daily Mail?  My complaint is that almost every option for news in the US has decided that "low-brow" is good enough.  I occasionally get to listen to the BBC (at pretty odd hours around here) and I can tell you without reservation that they do a better job (by my standards) at news coverage than ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC and FOX.  It's likely that we can't really debate my specific criticisms because you're not often exposed to the American media, and that's okay.  You've made some good points, but I still stand by my opinion.

Just because we don't understand the political and social issues over in the UK doesn't make the BBC less biased. It just means that we're less in tune to which issues they're biased about, so we don't spot it as readily. However, it occasionally becomes glaringly obvious in certain international news stories that they have just as much of an agenda as the American press.

The fact that anyone might expect news coverage to actually be unbiased kinda pisses me off. It never has been, and it never will be.

Incidentally, if there's anything that news coverage in the 1950's taught us, it's that forcing news outlets to broadcast certain things undeniably degrades the quality of the broadcast, since people lose interest, the networks lose sponsors, and the programs lose money. When it's not profitable to show news, it generally means that the network is going to make cuts, and everything turns into "local news ameteur hour" type stuff. The only reason the networks broadcasted any news other than human interest and celebrity stories in the '50s is because it was mandated by the government that they dedicate a half hour of news programming every day in order to use the public airwaves.

I highly reccommend watching the film "Good Night and Good Luck," not only because it's an excellent movie, but also because it really gives you the sense of how modern journalism originated in the US, and where these folks were coming from.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on January 29, 2010, 12:41:51 pm
Granted, but I don't think I said it used to be better.  I'm saying it should aspire to be impartial, not that it's ever really been that way.

No you didn't, sorry about that.

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It's not my opinion that matters, it's the integrity of the news being reported.  There are other sources for human interest stories than the mainstream news programs, and that's as it should be.  For the record, I don't think they're clumsy at presenting those stories at all, I think they're actually quite clever (read as: manipulative).  However, when news media focuses on stories of individuals in the case of a widespread catastrophe, you lose context rather than gain it.  Information like that doesn't generalize, nor do I think people need it to understand the overall impact of an event.  What you do gain is empathy, which may seem a noble thing, but is a far cry from objectivity and is not the purpose of the news.  Most news programs seem to have embraced that, however, because it's more interesting and it sells.

Again, I think this really varies for a lot of people. You can't just say that information doesn't generalize, unless you are implying that the public in general is too daft to understand that a human interest story isn't an isolated case. And I'm not saying that you need to have only human interest stories, just that they fill a purpose just as much as the rst of the reporting on the catastrophy. when I open a paper aroudn here, there are usually all kinds of stuff about major disasters. Human interest, factual backgrounds, maps and historically relevant information. I don't know if American Networks only report human interest stories, and specifically omit all other details. That sounds odd, and if it is the case I can certainly see why you're pissed off. But syaing that human itnerst stories have no place in a serious news publication is hogwas in my opinion.


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Good point.  I'll admit that it gave me pause.  I imagine that you're playing devil's advocate here and not actually suggesting that the two examples you cite are equally important...or are you?  Would you rate the two as equal events since neither directly impacts you or does one have more innate value?  I'm not sure how to quantify the relative importance of two events as their significance will always be subjective, but there is obviously some system by which it is determined by the media when they decide whether or not an item is newsworthy, right?  Do you suspect that is a carefully measured calculation or perhaps an off-the-cuff decision by some senior editor?  My guess would be that it depends on which item will attract more viewers and therefore result in more advertising revenue.  It's too bad that what people want and what they need are so infrequently the same thing.  Like an addiction, that kind of discrepancy can destroy a person...or a nation...or a planet.

No devils advocate, just pointing out the facts as I see them. I'm not saying that the two items are equally improtant, just that they have an equally low impact on your day to day life. If I understood you right your argument was that celebrity news doesn't mater but neither does this kind of stuff normally.

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But what if the majority of news outlets elected to follow the formula embraced by the Daily Mail?  My complaint is that almost every option for news in the US has decided that "low-brow" is good enough.  I occasionally get to listen to the BBC (at pretty odd hours around here) and I can tell you without reservation that they do a better job (by my standards) at news coverage than ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC and FOX.  It's likely that we can't really debate my specific criticisms because you're not often exposed to the American media, and that's okay.  You've made some good points, but I still stand by my opinion.

Like i said, I don't know your news networks at all, so fair enough. If they are actually all at a Daily Mail standard (or similar), then that is pretty horrible though and I offer my most sincere condolences.

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Here you mistake me completely.  Who decides that now?  I am not by any means arguing against the merits of a free press...quite the opposite.  I am merely stating my opinion that (in the US, at least) the media in general are doing a pathetic job of prioritizing their news stories and that they are guilty of frequently engaging in sensationalism for profit...which (still) pisses me off.

You used "we need to know" and "we don't need to know" repeatedly. That implies that someone somewhere decides what is needed and what isn't. The media follows the market, and a market that wants celebrity news gets it. It's interesting though. We have a few magazines like that over here as well and I always wonder who buys them.

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Sometimes, Luki, you take all the fun out of being pissed off... ;)

This is actually a trick. I'm aiming to get fossaman pissed off because he hates walls of text.What's one more pissed off person eh?

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The fact that anyone might expect news coverage to actually be unbiased kinda pisses me off. It never has been, and it never will be.

Very true, we're all biased one way or another.

By the way, here's 10 billion reasons (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article7007734.ece) to not be pissed off, for a little while at least.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on January 29, 2010, 05:06:52 pm
Multiple in-line quotations piss me off!!!
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: fossaman on January 29, 2010, 07:20:06 pm
I concur.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Nuclear on January 29, 2010, 11:46:38 pm
Yeah, multiple quotations in the same post, a quotation in a quotation, a quote of something that's already been quoted, they're all very pissy things...

I'm pissed off at my cat because it just shed all over my pants....
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on January 30, 2010, 12:01:10 am
This is actually a trick. I'm aiming to get fossaman pissed off because he hates walls of text.What's one more pissed off person eh?

Multiple in-line quotations piss me off!!!

I concur.

Muahahahahaha
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Alen on January 30, 2010, 12:03:50 pm
Very cruel Luki...  :D
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: fossaman on January 30, 2010, 07:44:50 pm
This is actually a trick. I'm aiming to get fossaman pissed off because he hates walls of text.What's one more pissed off person eh?

Now, see, the really funny thing here is that I didn't actually read your post. Iif you hadn't quoted it, I never would have known that was there.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Sedodes on January 30, 2010, 11:47:42 pm
I thought that being reprimanded would piss me off.  It didn't - I was merely amused.

I almost spammed "cunt" here a few thousand times using a dozen or so different methods.  Be thankful, Eth.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on January 31, 2010, 12:14:20 am
LOL.  I am grateful. 

Though honestly, you're pretty tame compared to some of the characters I have to handle on the Bolter and Chainsword.  Jesus there are a lot of assholes there!
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on January 31, 2010, 08:13:54 am
Now, see, the really funny thing here is that I didn't actually read your post. Iif you hadn't quoted it, I never would have known that was there.

No, the rally funny thing is that I knew this would play out exactly like this. I only put that in there because I was sure you wouldn't read it anyway and pretty sure you'd post about it. I love it when a plan comes together.

Also I'm pissed that I have to cook, clean and wash clothes during this week and next. In reference to how this started off, having to do everything yourself every now and then is a good way to be reminded of how much the other person actually does.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Bleeding Star on January 31, 2010, 12:28:15 pm
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Also I'm pissed that I have to cook, clean and wash clothes during this week and next. In reference to how this started off, having to do everything yourself every now and then is a good way to be reminded of how much the other person actually does.

You don't usually do these things? What, did your girlfriend escape from her cage?
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on January 31, 2010, 01:09:01 pm
You don't usually do these things? What, did your girlfriend escape from her cage?

It varies with the life situation. Back when we both studied, chores were divided pretty evenly, although she'd cook and do laundry a bit more, whereas I'd wash dishes and clean the flat a bit more. When we were both working, I did most of the household chores since she is a teacher and I'm an office worker1. Now that I work long days here and she is working at her masters from home, she tends to handle most stuff during the week. I still help out at the weekends, but I don't have to do the actual planning of when what needs to be done. Except for now that she is in Finland and I'm here on my own.

It pisses me off to be without her. Unlike Eth, I have no great masterpiece that needs finishing.

1I'd do my 8 hours, come home and then do laundry, cook and clean. but on the other hand, she'd do her much rougher 8 hours, come home and still be prepping the next days material 3 hours later.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Bleeding Star on February 02, 2010, 04:44:41 am
I didn't realise you'd convinced her to come over with you. You must have a silver tongue:

"Say, honey, would you mind coming to a foreign country with me to do my washing and shit? I know you've got that dissertation to write but I can't do all that ironing by myself."

On that note, fuck I hate ironing. Luckily, I have a girlfriend to do it for me.

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you're pretty tame compared to some of the characters I have to handle on the Bolter and Chainsword

Full of socially inept basement-dwellers with nothing better to do that argue on the internet? Not that there's anything wrong with that...
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on February 02, 2010, 11:57:18 am
We have to run a tight ship there.  It's probably the most heavily-moderated place I go on the internet. 
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on February 05, 2010, 11:38:19 am
I'm pissed off that Channel 6 has been yanking my chain for a month. They've been advertising this new and exciting fantasy television series called "The Seeker" It premièred today, and I was all ready with beer and chips and everything. And it turns out it the damned Sword of Truth in television form. I was wondering why I vaguely recognised names.

It also premièred over a year ago. New and exciting fantasy my ass.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: fossaman on February 05, 2010, 02:12:08 pm
Besides which, it wasn't that great of a show. I watched maybe the first half dozen episodes on Hulu, and then gave up because I didn't care for the characters and they did this really obnoxious slow-mo thing during fight sequences. Yes, we know you want to stretch your fight choreography further. No, that doesn't mean you can get away with cheesy dramatic slow-mo.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on February 07, 2010, 01:38:15 am
Yeah, hat was in the first two epsiodes as well, seriously huge amount of "slowly drifting through the air with your sword. now speed up! Now slow down. No float and then speed. Almost done... Oh, new soldier! Speed up! He's dead, sloow down". Annoying as hell. Also, I only dimly recall the books but I think I eventually lost interest because every emotion ever was super strong and powerful and dramatic and oh god true love of loves and the seeker has such ice and fire inside him and oh no and aaa... And the series certainly started off with that I'm amazed that they had time for that many dramatic exchanges in such a short time.

Just thinking about it pisses me off. To think I planned my dinner around that. Eugh.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: fossaman on February 07, 2010, 02:17:09 pm
That reminds me of something else that pisses me off: dramatic narrators for documentary television shows. You're talking about rocks, or dogs, or maybe if you're really lucky at casting a comet or something. Your voice does not need to sound like you expect a DUN dun DUNNNNNN after every other sentence! The National Geographic channel is especially guilty of this, and even though the content of their shows is often fascinating, the presentation could really use some help. And narrators that have had some tranquilizers before they go in to work.

Also irritating: Nature documentaries that do tear-jerker "oh no the baby animal is getting eaten" scenes. That baby animal is darn tasty. I'm rooting for the carnivore, every time.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Nuclear on February 07, 2010, 02:24:36 pm
I agree with everything you said Fossaman, those narrators probably don't give a crap about what their narrating but they suppose they'll sound more professional the more monotone {or over exaggerated } their voices sound...
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Bleeding Star on February 10, 2010, 01:55:27 am
I'm pissed off that Channel 6 has been yanking my chain for a month. They've been advertising this new and exciting fantasy television series called "The Seeker" It premièred today, and I was all ready with beer and chips and everything. And it turns out it the damned Sword of Truth in television form. I was wondering why I vaguely recognised names.

It also premièred over a year ago. New and exciting fantasy my ass.

I've heard awful things about the Sword of Truth (both books and TV show), but have never had the courage to read/watch. Are the books as bad as the show?

That reminds me of something else that pisses me off: dramatic narrators for documentary television shows. You're talking about rocks, or dogs, or maybe if you're really lucky at casting a comet or something. Your voice does not need to sound like you expect a DUN dun DUNNNNNN after every other sentence! The National Geographic channel is especially guilty of this, and even though the content of their shows is often fascinating, the presentation could really use some help. And narrators that have had some tranquilizers before they go in to work.

Also irritating: Nature documentaries that do tear-jerker "oh no the baby animal is getting eaten" scenes. That baby animal is darn tasty. I'm rooting for the carnivore, every time.

They seriously need to clone David Attenborough. I'd listen to that man reading the phone book.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: fossaman on February 10, 2010, 03:09:53 am
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Are the books as bad as the show?

I read the first one and sorta liked it. I never bothered with the rest of the series, mostly because there's so dang many of them. And if I read a second one I'd have to read them all.

Speaking of long series: It pisses me off that Robert Jordan died before he could finish his last 'Wheel of Time' book. Let this be a lesson to you aspiring creative types out there: Never start a project that will take longer than your lifespan to finish!
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on February 10, 2010, 01:11:15 pm
I read the first one and sorta liked it. I never bothered with the rest of the series, mostly because there's so dang many of them. And if I read a second one I'd have to read them all.

I thoguht the first one was good, but I think by the third or fourth they were already starting to annoy me.

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Speaking of long series: It pisses me off that Robert Jordan died before he could finish his last 'Wheel of Time' book. Let this be a lesson to you aspiring creative types out there: Never start a project that will take longer than your lifespan to finish!

It pisses me off that jordan went from "Hey guys check out this mazing world" to "Foreign people be having strange customs and women are pig headed, stupid and selfish. Men are just stupid, but not as stupid as women think they are. Also these bad guys are back for like the third time or something!" I stopped reading somewhere around the path of daggers. It wasn't an epos, it was "the bold and the Beautiful" in fantasy book form by the end.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Alen on February 10, 2010, 02:01:12 pm
What pisses me off is when people type in small letters to inconvenience people.  ;)

I also hate people who contradict themselves in the same sentence.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: fossaman on February 10, 2010, 04:00:59 pm
Small letters are the way of the future, man! Long live the 20/15 vision elite!
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Zeracles on February 11, 2010, 07:09:35 am
I'm pissed when people simply jump on the bandwagon in a childish attempt to be funny (except if it's an attempt at self-annigilation, as the case may be . . .).
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Draxas on February 11, 2010, 02:28:48 pm
I'm pissed off at the frigging SNOW. Like we needed another 2 feet on top of the 2 feet we got this past Saturday. Screw you too, nature.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Sage on February 11, 2010, 02:53:49 pm
I agree. Snow is evil. If I had a flamethrower with enough fuel I'd go and torch all the damn snow!
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Nuclear on February 11, 2010, 09:00:39 pm
Yeah, but that would probably be a major contributor to Global Warming and a waste of resources {Since, the next day, it'll probably just snow again}. Speaking of which, that pisses me off, all that global warming hippy crap! It turns out that humans contribute a tiny tiny tiny tiny bit to global Warming, it's mostly volcanoes and animal farts I think, actually it just might be all the breathing out and not enough trees to filter all the carbon dioxide...
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Draxas on February 11, 2010, 09:29:13 pm
And why is that? Because we've chopped them all down. :P

I'm seriously pissed off now that I've heard we're supposed to get even more snow Sunday into Monday. Nature, you suck.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: fossaman on February 11, 2010, 10:51:18 pm
It pisses me off that people still care whether we caused global warming or not. It's already happening, stop pointing fingers and start finding ways to ameliorate the problem.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Dragon on February 12, 2010, 12:41:20 am
It pisses me off that it's still 29 degrees when I get home *after* dark.  What is this? The Australian outback?   >:(

Also that melting chunks of Antarctica keep floating past and messing with the weather.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on February 12, 2010, 10:47:38 am
Yeah, but that would probably be a major contributor to Global Warming and a waste of resources {Since, the next day, it'll probably just snow again}. Speaking of which, that pisses me off, all that global warming hippy crap! It turns out that humans contribute a tiny tiny tiny tiny bit to global Warming, it's mostly volcanoes and animal farts I think, actually it just might be all the breathing out and not enough trees to filter all the carbon dioxide...

I'm pissed-off that you posted this bullshit.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Nuclear on February 12, 2010, 03:28:13 pm
Bull shit pisses people off and that is the meaning of this thread is it not? ;)
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on February 15, 2010, 12:42:23 pm
Also that melting chunks of Antarctica keep floating past and messing with the weather.

Yeah, the Gulf stream is supposedly weakening because of the melting Arctic as well. I really look forward to -50 C winters...
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on February 15, 2010, 11:14:23 pm
  What a mess.  I foresee some mass human migrations in our lifetime. 
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on February 16, 2010, 11:13:57 am
  What a mess.  I foresee some mass human migrations in our lifetime. 

I've already migrated, so I'm ahead of the pack. Doesn't that just piss you off?
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Dragon on February 18, 2010, 01:49:56 am
I've already migrated, so I'm ahead of the pack. Doesn't that just piss you off?

I suspect you haven't migrated far enough.  It pisses me off that I can't hop on the next rocket to Alpha Centauri and watch Earth turn into a steaming ball of molten rock* from very far away.

*may not actually turn into a ball of molten rock
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: fossaman on February 18, 2010, 01:56:12 am
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*may not actually turn into a ball of molten rock

It would probably depend on what kind of rocket you used, and how far from the earth you went before lighting it off. All the best spaceships can melt planets, after all.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Dragon on February 19, 2010, 12:23:06 am
Speaking of planet melting rockets; before that pesky no nukes in space business there was Project Orion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion)).  The big version was almost a half a kilometre long.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on February 19, 2010, 08:56:42 am
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*may not actually turn into a ball of molten rock

It would probably depend on what kind of rocket you used, and how far from the earth you went before lighting it off. All the best spaceships can melt planets, after all.

Or how long you waited for. Eventually the sun will make this place very very hot.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Sedodes on February 20, 2010, 06:27:19 pm
I'm pissed off that sage changed his avatar and I didn't notice until now.

Damn, being married really eats into your internet life.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Dabir on February 21, 2010, 04:25:48 am
I'm pissed off that snow. Again. Now. And I've bought a second hat. And it's going to get covered in snow.

HATE.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Cedric6014 on February 21, 2010, 11:39:07 am
I'm pissed off that snow. Again. Now. And I've bought a second hat. And it's going to get covered in snow.

HATE.

What kind of hat. A snow hat?
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on February 21, 2010, 02:41:23 pm
  I hate having to close the store, go home and sleep for five hours, and then come back and open the store!
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Rider on February 21, 2010, 03:53:37 pm
I forgot my friggin' phone at a friends place. Besides the fact that the little bugger is basically my one connection to everyone I know, both professionally and personally, it's also my scheduler... so for the next 24 hours I have no clue what's going to be happening this week. I sure hope there's nothing big planned soon. It's my own stupid fault for leaving it there too... and that pisses me off!
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on February 22, 2010, 12:24:15 pm
What kind of hat. A snow hat?

I seem to recall kids throwing snowballs at his hat. so maybe it's a top hat. If I saw one of those, I'd damn well chuck a snowball at it's monocle-bearing wielder before he got out a "right-ho dear chap!".

I bike to work. What with the amazing snowstorms Sweden has been having, it's been a challenge. and this morning it was -22 C. It's only three kilometres or so, but it was still a bit chilly. Seeing my co-workers all warm after their car rides pissed me of. but then I chuckled as I realized they'll die of obesity long after I get run over on the roads...
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Dabir on February 22, 2010, 02:15:37 pm
I had a black felt trilby before, and now I have a black fedora with leather band too.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on February 23, 2010, 11:03:11 am
Well, I wouldn't throw a snowball at that. I'd be tempted though. Do you often wear hats? Are you like Eth, a hat kind of person?
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Dabir on February 23, 2010, 01:31:50 pm
Rarely seen outside without one and a big long coat, upwards of twenty years old.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on February 23, 2010, 02:01:25 pm
Why is your coat older than you? Is it a family heirloom. Uh, I have no heirlooms, that pisses me off.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Rider on February 23, 2010, 04:43:18 pm
Oh man, I completely screwed up my sleeping schedule with a single action. I was falling asleep at my PC at around 8PM so I decided to go to bed. It's now 1AM and I'm wide awake. This sucks.

Also, I'm not in the Starcraft 2 beta at this time. This pisses me off.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on February 23, 2010, 08:47:30 pm
Why is your coat older than you? Is it a family heirloom. Uh, I have no heirlooms, that pisses me off.

Oo, that reminds me!  I got an heirloom recently.  A chair originally owned by my great grandmother, restored by my mother.  It's an art deco chair, made of mahogany. 
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Cedric6014 on February 24, 2010, 01:34:01 am
Oo, that reminds me!  I got an heirloom recently.  A chair originally owned by my great grandmother, restored by my mother.  It's an art deco chair, made of mahogany. 

And let me guess. That pisses you off?

Back to hats, I've never understood them. Good for keeping the sun off your face, but theres good reason we ditched the mass wearing of them in the early 50s. Theyre useless!
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Draxas on February 24, 2010, 07:48:20 am
Agreed. Few things piss me off like having to have a... thing... stuck on my head. I hate hats, and always have.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Dragon on February 25, 2010, 02:25:21 am
The International Intellectual Property Alliance blacklisting Indonesia for advocating the use of open source software pisses me off more than words can describe (article here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/feb/23/opensource-intellectual-property)).  How that bullshit got taken seriously is insane, and more than a little worrying.  I really, really hope that something's been taken out of context there.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Draxas on February 25, 2010, 07:34:11 am
That's insanity. Why would anyone listen to that bunch of hypocritical special interest shills? And yet, someone undoubtedly will, and that pisses me off.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Dabir on February 25, 2010, 08:33:32 am
I'm pissed off at the Italian judge who decided on this (http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpposted/archive/2010/02/24/fp-tech-desk-italian-judge-convicts-three-google-employees-after-bullying-video-is-posted-to-the-web.aspx) little conviction. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING.
Escapist Magazine (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.177269-Italian-Court-Convicts-Google-Employees-Over-Google-Video) article for a more fun read.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on February 25, 2010, 12:10:07 pm
It's an odd thing really, when you think about it. In no other media is it all right to remove offensive/criminal media after it's been added and have no repercussions. If you let anonymous people edit your newspaper before you distribute it and there's racism in it, you'll still be responsible. If you let people anonymous people add video live on television and they advocate genovide on camera, it's not all right to just say "whoops, their bad". In every other media, the publisher is responsible for everything they publish. Sure, the racist guy advocating genocide is guilty of that, but that doesn't mean the paper/publisher gets off scot free.

It doesn't piss me off, but it is odd. Much like Dabirs coat. Do you have a picture of it? A make or a model?
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Dabir on February 25, 2010, 01:08:55 pm
Well there's 2 major differences here: Firstly, the sheer volume of input that comes into Google video every day. You can't reasonably be expected to pre-vet all that. TV programme makers and newspaper article writers/editors are working on one thing at a time, and have time to check out what their contributors are saying.

Secondly, the ease of correction. In the newspapers, you can't exactly go out and recall every copy of that issue and replace it with an updated one. On TV, you control the distribution, and people will be watching at one specific time or have to wait for the repeats, which again you can hold off until it's corrected, but everyone will still see the same thing, ie the racism. With google video, you have no guarantee that everyone saw the video at the same time, with the same content, and by taking it down you prevent a lot more people from seeing it, whereas on TV they'd have seen it if they were going to; you've already done maximum damage.

Don't ask me where stuff like BBC iPlayer fits into this.

And no, I don't have a picture of my coat. It's an ancient Burberry one, with a bit of added trimming around the sleeves and the bottom.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Zeracles on February 25, 2010, 05:12:10 pm
It pisses me off that people still care whether we caused global warming or not. It's already happening, stop pointing fingers and start finding ways to ameliorate the problem.
Knowing which industrial pricks are most responsible would be quite practical; as our continents sink I would like to know who to throw overboard first.

I'm pissed off that snow. Again. Now. And I've bought a second hat. And it's going to get covered in snow.

HATE.
I once went to a school at which we wore straw boaters (like wearing a saucepan) that would partially dissolve when they got wet. Snow would have been bad. It would have pissed me off, in fact.

I hate having to close the store, go home and sleep for five hours, and then come back and open the store!
What about sleeping in the store? No shortage of bedtime reading!

I bike to work. What with the amazing snowstorms Sweden has been having, it's been a challenge. and this morning it was -22 C. It's only three kilometres or so, but it was still a bit chilly. Seeing my co-workers all warm after their car rides pissed me of. but then I chuckled as I realized they'll die of obesity long after I get run over on the roads...
I agree, dying of obesity would be a worse fate than getting run over, but I reckon it's more likely you'll freeze on the way.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on February 26, 2010, 12:57:48 am
  Having to deal with the Family Medical Leave Act's retarded paperwork pisses me off!  Can hardly wait to be self-employed full-time!
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Draxas on February 27, 2010, 01:33:05 pm
I'm pissed that mother nature seems to want to expel us from this planet. Between the near-constant snowstorms in the northeast US (and supposedly we're supposed to get a mind-boggling 47" storm on 3/7, because we needed more snow), the earthquakes in Haiti and Chile, and the tsunami that's supposed to obliterate Hawaii any minute now, it seems like maybe the environment is trying to let us know that we've overstayed our welcome.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Lukipela on February 28, 2010, 11:45:43 am
 Having to deal with the Family Medical Leave Act's retarded paperwork pisses me off!  Can hardly wait to be self-employed full-time!

It pisses me off that someone in your family apparently is unwell. Do you actually have to fill out paperwork for that? Here you can be home with a sick child for three days with full pay, after that you need a doctors waiver and such. But healthcare is free, so it's pretty easy to get.

it seems like maybe the environment is trying to let us know that we've overstayed our welcome.

Yeah, a card would be enough. It pisses me off how much people whine about the weather here in Scandinavia though. For the last ten years everyone has been moaning about how we never have proper winters any more and how grey and drab it is. Now that there is a proper winter, it's just "too much". I don't like bicycling in this weather, but other than that I think it's 100% awesome.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Eth on February 28, 2010, 02:42:42 pm
 Having to deal with the Family Medical Leave Act's retarded paperwork pisses me off!  Can hardly wait to be self-employed full-time!

It pisses me off that someone in your family apparently is unwell. Do you actually have to fill out paperwork for that? Here you can be home with a sick child for three days with full pay, after that you need a doctors waiver and such. But healthcare is free, so it's pretty easy to get.

Well, I just need my doctor to fill out the paperwork for my employer, but they made a mistake, and now my employer is threatening me, so I have to go BACK to the doctor, and get it fixed, and it's all such a hassle. 
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Sage on March 01, 2010, 01:45:17 pm
I'm pissed off that sage changed his avatar and I didn't notice until now.

Damn, being married really eats into your internet life.

I'm pissed off that I wasn't able to read this until today.

Damn, being married really eats into your internet life.

Also, I'm not in the Starcraft 2 beta at this time. This pisses me off.

Neither am I. We are now pissed off not-Starcraft 2 Beta buddies!

Also, on the current topic, the US medical system pisses me off. The type of bullshit paperwork and bosses threatening to fire you over shit like what Eth is describing is a lot more common than one would like. Insurance companies are probably my biggest sticking point in the whole thing. We pay them all this money for what we presume is some kind of "service", but what do we get for that money? They fight us tooth and nail to avoid spending any of it, even when the whole goddamn purpose of the system is to have the money available when it's needed (or at least, that's what they tell you).
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Draxas on March 01, 2010, 02:42:16 pm
Insurance is a gamble that you are going to get sick. The House (insurance company) is betting on you staying well. Of course, since they write the rules, payouts may vary when you win, if they decide not to ragequit and drop your coverage.

The whole system pisses me off as well.
Title: Re: The Pissed Off Megathread
Post by: Nuclear on March 04, 2010, 11:01:12 pm
I just bought a new 8 gigabyte SD card for 30 bucks {Awesome deal} and when I got home to put it in my camera, it didn't fit. It was a matter of my own stupidity and that pisses me off!