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Re: yall's opinions
« Reply #45 on: March 15, 2010, 10:37:26 pm »
Jesus, why did you have to dig this thing up?!?  What an ugly, ugly thread.

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« Reply #46 on: March 16, 2010, 06:25:55 am »
Sedodes is Sedodes (or a_stupid_box or whatever moniker he's going by). He's always like that. Taking it personally is a silly thing to do.

It's silly to think that one can act like that, and it's silly to think that others enable.  There is a huge difference between criticizing and just being distastefully sardonic.  One is meant to correct wrong and to build up, and the other is meant to tear down, boast, or embarrass.

If you met someone and the first thing he did was slap you in the face, what would you think?  Now, compound that onto "Oh, don't worry, he always does that.  Don't take it personal."

That's silly.

And Eth, I dug this up to laugh at myself, really.  I appreciate hind-sight, I suppose.

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Re: yall's opinions
« Reply #47 on: March 16, 2010, 11:32:39 am »
It's silly to think that one can act like that, and it's silly to think that others enable.  There is a huge difference between criticizing and just being distastefully sardonic.  One is meant to correct wrong and to build up, and the other is meant to tear down, boast, or embarrass.

Well, you're not wrong here, I agree. On the other hand, if you take someone you've never met and will never actually meet personally, then you may want to reconsider hanging out on-line. It's going to happen. You art was absolutely atrocious, but didn't warrant the treatment. Wow, deja vu.
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Re: yall's opinions
« Reply #48 on: March 16, 2010, 11:57:45 am »
It's silly to think that one can act like that, and it's silly to think that others enable.  There is a huge difference between criticizing and just being distastefully sardonic.  One is meant to correct wrong and to build up, and the other is meant to tear down, boast, or embarrass.

Well, you're not wrong here, I agree. On the other hand, if you take someone you've never met and will never actually meet personally, then you may want to reconsider hanging out on-line. It's going to happen. You art was absolutely atrocious, but didn't warrant the treatment. Wow, deja vu.

I don't believe "art"is the right word here.  Like I said, all of that was hijacked, cut, and filtered in PS.  Thanks for being kind though :)

But I have to ask... you more or less shared the sentiment of "If you don't like ASD then get off the forums."

That's a bit disconcerting.  Back when I used to frequent the site, he used to maliciously attack anyone new or someone he deemed unworthy.  I guess my question is: how is this site supposed to grow if new members are chased away?

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« Reply #49 on: March 16, 2010, 12:42:57 pm »
But I have to ask... you more or less shared the sentiment of "If you don't like ASD then get off the forums."

That's a bit disconcerting.  Back when I used to frequent the site, he used to maliciously attack anyone new or someone he deemed unworthy.  I guess my question is: how is this site supposed to grow if new members are chased away?

I think you misunderstand what I said. No small wonder though, since this isn't the most straightforward subject and  I could have been clearer. Lets put it like this. Back when you were active, we didn't have much moderation. For along time we didn't actually have any, making it law of the jungle around here. If you can't deal with someone and there is no one around with the power to stop him, then it is a case of "Deal with it or get off the forums". And more generally, for every person being a dick on a forum, someone else is being nice. If you give someone's opinion more weight than it deserves just because he's being rude, then you should reconsider your options. this is true anywhere you go on the net, not just here. If you take everyone personally, you're going to get a lot of bruises.

The situation here is different nowadays. There's moderation now that ensures that people don't go too far. But what we see as too far and what you do may be two different things. Even though this isn't the jungle any more, it isn't a playground either. The SCDB doesn't do heavy moderation, because we expect our members to be able to take criticism. We're on the lookout for newcomers getting tussled up too badly (I guess Nuclear is a good example) but we're not really in the business of running the tightest of ships. A lot of creativity gets lost when rules are enforced to the bone. If you feel someone treats you too harshly, you can always complain to us. But we're not enforcers of any certain standard. We just see to it that things move more smoothly than they may once have moved.

For examples of moderation, there's a feedback thread around here somewhere. Might make an interesting read.
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« Reply #50 on: March 16, 2010, 12:54:28 pm »
Lukipela, trust me...  I understand what you're saying.  I "grew up" because of a much harsher environment that this (LUE from GameFAQs, although it's much nicer now), so I don't take much of what people saying over the Internet to heart.  I find most things amusing... like this thread.

I know people have their gimmick.  His is being bitter and negative.  I get it.  I was just wondering how that translated over to new members, but you answered that question for me as well.

So

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What has been going on over the past 6 years?  Man, it sounds like such a long time ago saying it like that... but I remember typing this topic in the computer lab.

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« Reply #51 on: March 16, 2010, 01:03:35 pm »
Well, one of the things going on nowadays is that we try to keep GD threads somewhat on topic. Topic drift is fine in OT but here we'll let a thread sink (especially an old hideous one) and start a new one about recent events ;)

Or if you want to stick to the topic, what were you thinking when you did your art? Was there a time when you felt it was really really good? Or did you just post it to have something to show?
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« Reply #52 on: March 16, 2010, 01:47:38 pm »
Honestly, I'm not even sure what I was thinking. 

Well... I did think it was good. 

Yes, I did.

In fact, I still think the concept is good.  The pictures are crap but the ship concepts are solid.  This is why I'm wanting to expand on them; however, I NEED it to be my original art.  Not someone's that I stole and sent it through the proverbial Photoshop filter car wash.

I also want to expand on the back stories and balance the ships.  The original drafts were sloppy and thrown together.

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« Reply #53 on: March 17, 2010, 02:21:32 pm »
So, I'm guessing we can still post here?  So, what's the motivation to go to the new board?

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Re: yall's opinions
« Reply #54 on: March 17, 2010, 10:28:39 pm »
So, I'm guessing we can still post here?  So, what's the motivation to go to the new board?

You can still post here for a very short time, to allow people who don't pop up as often to get their bearings. This place will be locked down very soon though.
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