Transparency of Karma

[Shiver]

First, we need to get rid of this crap.

Second, I finally broke my "never use the karma system" vow after wandering into a thread and seeing Bleeding Star at 2. Whoever downvoted him needs to get themself a damn clue right now because that is what good forum posting looks like. Another straw -> camel's back -> spinal injury. If the moderators are going to force this terrible scoring system upon us, it may as well vaguely resemble actual levels of contribution.


Self-imposed guidelines:

• Announce every vote I make in this thread.
• Vote primarily based upon whether your score seems too high or too low for your level of contribution.
• Do not vote spam anyone rapid fire regardless of feelings.
• Do not vote anyone into a negative number unless they approach Jaychant levels of hideousness.
• Consider posters with unusually high karma open season for sniping at.

+1 Bleeding Star -- Good poster. Score was way too low.
+1 Lukipela -- Already huge karma score, but he's earned it.
+1 Anthony -- Hosted the StarCon video. Thanks mang.
+1 Cedric -- I sort of like Cedric. His score was too low.
+1 Death999 -- Joined SCDB at my request.
+1 MrBrian -- Is making XNA melee, was at zero karma. Not tolerable.
+1 Sage -- Good poster only had 2 karma. Unacceptable.
-1 Valaggar (n00b) -- A score of 10 is ridiculous. He was alright and all, but Jesus Christ, stop dumping points on him.
-1 Zeracles -- Point inflation as seen above. Has he even posted in Adventures Beyond Known Space once?
-1 Megagun -- Megagun sits in #uqm-arena all the time and never plays. I hate people who do this. Additionally, "Signatures SUCK" is not good flavor text and I wince every time I have to read it. Feeling some remorse about this because his score is already low and I've seen him give good input before.


I think I might have down voted someone else but I can't remember now. Mods, please announce if I do this.

[Lukipela]

+1 karma for Shiver because I think this is pretty interesting.

EDIT: Although maybe I should point out that MrBrian stopped making his melee quite some time ago. Seems someone bumped his thread by mistake. Also, participation in ABKS isn't mandatory I don't want people participating because they feel they have to, I only want participants who do so because they enjoy doing so.

That's a terrible joke. It makes by brain hurt.
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[fossaman]

Yes, Shiver gets to add a Warship to his fleet for this one.

And no, I'm not apologizing for that pun.

[Megagun]

-1 Megagun -- Megagun sits in #uqm-arena all the time and never plays. I hate people who do this. Additionally, "Signatures SUCK" is not good flavor text and I wince every time I have to read it.

Maybe I just like to hear you whine about how $COMMUNITY is a bunch of stupid peoples because they don't play Net Melee, only to join them later on and complain how $OTHERCOMMUNITY is a bunch of stupids. But fine, I've removed #uqm-arena from my autojoin list, but only on my Windows installation of X-chat. Remind me of this whenever I get back to Fedora.

Also, signatures *do* suck. They're the worst thing to ever appear in forum engines.

Also, -1 to Shiver for openly admitting to hating people.

Also, hah, made Shiver wince.

EDIT: "Signatures are a poorly-thought-out feature amongst forum engines of modern times" doesn't fit for in my user title.

[Dabir]

+1 to Shiver cause of this thread.
+1 to fossa cause of that pun.

In agreement here that more transparency is usually a Good Thing.

[Shiver]

-1 Megagun -- Megagun sits in #uqm-arena all the time and never plays. I hate people who do this. Additionally, "Signatures SUCK" is not good flavor text and I wince every time I have to read it.

Maybe I just like to hear you whine about how $COMMUNITY is a bunch of stupid peoples because they don't play Net Melee, only to join them later on and complain how $OTHERCOMMUNITY is a bunch of stupids. But fine, I've removed #uqm-arena from my autojoin list, but only on my Windows installation of X-chat. Remind me of this whenever I get back to Fedora.

Also, signatures *do* suck. They're the worst thing to ever appear in forum engines.

Also, -1 to Shiver for openly admitting to hating people.

Also, hah, made Shiver wince.

EDIT: "Signatures are a poorly-thought-out feature amongst forum engines of modern times" doesn't fit for in my user title.

Karma is a small thing to throw a hissy fit over, but okay? You can stay in #uqm-arena if you really want to, it's not my living room or anything.

[Scott_Irving]

it's just a silly little number really, Although it does seem to gather attention, which gets forumites talking?

[Cedric6014]

it's not my living room or anything.

are you suuuuuuure about that?

[Rider]

I agree that transparency will probably increase the community as it's now clear WHY you may have a low/high score. I always hate getting kicked and not knowing why.

+1 to Scott_Irving for finally doing something real about the website (assuming it's going to be done, otherwise that's coming right back )

[Lukipela]

I agree that transparency will probably increase the community as it's now clear WHY you may have a low/high score. I always hate getting kicked and not knowing why.

I think it's pretty funny, as long as you don't take it seriously. I noticed a while back, that every time someone upped me to 19, someone else would drop me back down to 17. This thread bumped me up to 21, and now someone is dropping it again. It'll be interesting to see where I land this time Sort of like a karma roller-coaster.

[Dabir]

Sorry Luki, that was me. Entirely accidental, the button suddenly turned up where another button had been.

[Eth]

+1 to Shiver for putting so much thought into this, and expressing himself well.  I barely even notice peoples' karmas, TBH.  I don't have a clue what mine is, or at least I won't until I've posted this.  13, maybe?

EDIT: 12.  I was close.

[Zeracles]

First, we need to get rid of this crap.
. . .

• Vote primarily based upon whether your score seems too high or too low for your level of contribution.

I have a better idea. You don't like the system, right? We can effectively dismantle it without the mods' help. Just annigilate anyone with positive karma, and warship anyone with negative karma. I figure there are enough anti-karma fellas (and enough apathetic mods) about to bring everyone's karma to zero within days. Problem solved! I'm game if anyone else is! Begin the karma war!

-1 Valaggar (n00b) -- A score of 10 is ridiculous. He was alright and all, but Jesus Christ, stop dumping points on him.

Val is worth five of you.

-1 Zeracles -- Point inflation as seen above. Has he even posted in Adventures Beyond Known Space once?

What's your point? Adventures will die if people don't post in it, but so would any other thread. I don't spend much time here, so I need to make choices about what threads I can make meaningful contributions to. I make no apology for not shitting up adventures with variations on a theme of ``yeah, what Eth said". Quality, not quantity.

-1 Megagun -- Megagun sits in #uqm-arena all the time and never plays. I hate people who do this. Additionally, "Signatures SUCK" is not good flavor text and I wince every time I have to read it.

This looks like yet more of those perfectly innocuous things that happen to irritate you.

Karma is a small thing to throw a hissy fit over, but okay?

This is a bit rich coming from one who went to the trouble of posting a thread about it and presuming to sit in judgement over everyone else to justify it.

it's just a silly little number really, Although it does seem to gather attention, which gets forumites talking?

True, arguing about it is a lot more fun than participating in it

I barely even notice peoples' karmas, TBH.

Heh, I usually don't even visit threads unless I post, so I don't notice karma until then I usually warship someone at that point, IIRC I've only ever annigilated once and that was as a joke.

Now, my turn (pending approval of aforementioned karma solution)!

+1 to Mega for making Shiver wince
+1 to LHOOQ because I miss him
-1 to Shiver for presuming to judge everyone else. We can do without that sort of thing in most cases, which is why we can do without karma.

[Shiver]

I have a better idea. You don't like the system, right? We can effectively dismantle it without the mods' help. Just annigilate anyone with positive karma, and warship anyone with negative karma. I figure there are enough anti-karma fellas (and enough apathetic mods) about to bring everyone's karma to zero within days. Problem solved! I'm game if anyone else is! Begin the karma war!

This is a good idea, but it seems premature to start bombing everyone's karma right after starting a topic on transparency. I will join you after this thread's premise seems worn out.

Val is worth five of you.

Were you two up-voting each other repeatedly? I know of no one else that has such an irrationally high opinion of Valaggar.

What's your point? Adventures will die if people don't post in it, but so would any other thread. I don't spend much time here, so I need to make choices about what threads I can make meaningful contributions to. I make no apology for not shitting up adventures with variations on a theme of ``yeah, what Eth said". Quality, not quantity.

Valid. However, you haven't been very active recently and I still feel your karma score is inflated.

-1 Megagun -- Megagun sits in #uqm-arena all the time and never plays. I hate people who do this. Additionally, "Signatures SUCK" is not good flavor text and I wince every time I have to read it.

This looks like yet more of those perfectly innocuous things that happen to irritate you.

He was kind enough to reinforce my vague dislike of him in this thread. Enough said about that.

This is a bit rich coming from one who went to the trouble of posting a thread about it and presuming to sit in judgement over everyone else to justify it.

A "get rid of karma" thread wouldn't be very exciting. You don't like the twist?

-1 to Shiver for presuming to judge everyone else. We can do without that sort of thing in most cases, which is why we can do without karma.

I think you're just retaliating.

[Lukipela]

Sorry Luki, that was me. Entirely accidental, the button suddenly turned up where another button had been.

Awww. This was much more exciting when I had a karma stalker. Still, presumably you haven't always had butterfingers so maybe my stalker will come back!

Were you two up-voting each other repeatedly? I know of no one else that has such an irrationally high opinion of Valaggar.

I liked Valaggar and thought he might have a bit more luck contributing if he wasn't stuck with the stigma of being "that guy". That's why he was allowed back with a different name, so that he could attempt to start over with a clean slate. I did give him a few points for the reincarnation remark, as did many others. Oh, and when he sent me a save game for ABKS. It's a pity he decided to self destruct once more really, at least he enjoyed my games.