Whoopde-dee and trolly bazoo, we are having a busy month here in Star Control land!
Tiberian / Tommi Salminen has finished The Eternal Doctrine, the second half of his novelization of Star Control 2.
His blog post announcing this is here.
Congratulations!
Groombridge Log + Eternal Doctrine duology Complete
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Re: Groombridge Log + Eternal Doctrine duology Complete
Incredible work! As a contributor to the eaaaarly stages and in a limited fashion, I can vouch that Tiberian perseverance and commitment inspired me a lot from that point on. Also, I enjoyed buying and reading both books quite a lot!
Amazing job!
Amazing job!
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Specifically, they pried me from the doorjamb, and rolled me into the street.'' -Fwiffo
Specifically, they pried me from the doorjamb, and rolled me into the street.'' -Fwiffo
Re: Groombridge Log + Eternal Doctrine duology Complete
Ok, so here's a legitimate question:
how does copyright/trademark apply to this document and could it be blocked?
*edit - has it been? Kindle and paperback are no longer available
It seems like it was done with permission from both F&P and Stardock?
how does copyright/trademark apply to this document and could it be blocked?
*edit - has it been? Kindle and paperback are no longer available

It seems like it was done with permission from both F&P and Stardock?
Re: Groombridge Log + Eternal Doctrine duology Complete
Copyright/trademark applies such that a major part of the content has been created by Fred Ford and Paul Reiche and thus the books exist thanks to their approval. I have indeed made a deal with them.
I don't have a deal with Stardock for several reasons, one being that the project was well under way when I learned they had bought the rights to Star Control trademark. When I did learn that, I included a note that Star Control is a registered trademark of Stardock. If the title of the books would include "Star Control", then I think I would need to get their approval as well. If it becomes a problem that the cover says "based on the universe of Star Control" then I could simply erase that part or replace it with something like "based on the universe of The Ur-Quan Masters".
That being said, Stardock is aware of these books as I have contacted them some time ago. My latest word from them is that there is no problem. Of course with the big legal issues at hand that might change some day, but hopefully not.
Then, regarding your worries about availability...
Both books Groombridge Log and Eternal Doctrine are still available everywhere. If they appear as no longer available to you, it might be a regional issue.
Here are some links:
Groombridge Log (Kindle) on Amazon (There's a link to the paperback as well.)
Eternal Doctrine (Kindle) on Amazon (There's a link to the paperback as well.)
Eternal Doctrine (ebook) on Kobo
For Finnish readers the most convenient place to buy them has proven to be Suomalainen kirjakauppa (Groombridge Log , Eternal Doctrine)
In addition, according to Google search both books are available in a number of online book stores all around the world. If you still can't find them anywhere, let me know where you're from and I'll look into it. You can also check my webpage in case there are updates to the availability of the books.
I don't have a deal with Stardock for several reasons, one being that the project was well under way when I learned they had bought the rights to Star Control trademark. When I did learn that, I included a note that Star Control is a registered trademark of Stardock. If the title of the books would include "Star Control", then I think I would need to get their approval as well. If it becomes a problem that the cover says "based on the universe of Star Control" then I could simply erase that part or replace it with something like "based on the universe of The Ur-Quan Masters".
That being said, Stardock is aware of these books as I have contacted them some time ago. My latest word from them is that there is no problem. Of course with the big legal issues at hand that might change some day, but hopefully not.
Then, regarding your worries about availability...
Both books Groombridge Log and Eternal Doctrine are still available everywhere. If they appear as no longer available to you, it might be a regional issue.
Here are some links:
Groombridge Log (Kindle) on Amazon (There's a link to the paperback as well.)
Eternal Doctrine (Kindle) on Amazon (There's a link to the paperback as well.)
Eternal Doctrine (ebook) on Kobo
For Finnish readers the most convenient place to buy them has proven to be Suomalainen kirjakauppa (Groombridge Log , Eternal Doctrine)
In addition, according to Google search both books are available in a number of online book stores all around the world. If you still can't find them anywhere, let me know where you're from and I'll look into it. You can also check my webpage in case there are updates to the availability of the books.
Author of Star Control novelizations Groombridge Log and Eternal Doctrine. www.tommisalminenbooks.com
Re: Groombridge Log + Eternal Doctrine duology Complete
More information regarding the availability of the books:
The publisher has informed me that they do not have a contract with American Amazon and therefore the books are not supposed to be available there. There are a few interesting observations though...
- The availability issue supposedly only affects the Kindle version
- I was able to buy the Kindle version from the American Amazon
- Some American dude was not able to buy the ebook from UK Amazon
- Some Indian guy saw the books listed as available in US Amazon prior to logging in, but unavailable after logging in
- It might also have something to do with the account holder's listed home address, but this is unverified.
So here are my suggestions if you are having trouble purchasing the books from Amazon:
- Try another locale's Amazon
- Try another store entirely
- Pose as a non-US customer in the best way you see fit
- Settle with the printed version if that one is available, but the ebook is not
- as a last resort, live with the PDF version
The publisher has informed me that they do not have a contract with American Amazon and therefore the books are not supposed to be available there. There are a few interesting observations though...
- The availability issue supposedly only affects the Kindle version
- I was able to buy the Kindle version from the American Amazon
- Some American dude was not able to buy the ebook from UK Amazon
- Some Indian guy saw the books listed as available in US Amazon prior to logging in, but unavailable after logging in
- It might also have something to do with the account holder's listed home address, but this is unverified.
So here are my suggestions if you are having trouble purchasing the books from Amazon:
- Try another locale's Amazon
- Try another store entirely
- Pose as a non-US customer in the best way you see fit
- Settle with the printed version if that one is available, but the ebook is not
- as a last resort, live with the PDF version
Last edited by Tiberian on Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Author of Star Control novelizations Groombridge Log and Eternal Doctrine. www.tommisalminenbooks.com
Re: Groombridge Log + Eternal Doctrine duology Complete
Oh, more Amazon fun?