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Re: About to try to beat Star Control 2...no spoilers!

Post by krulle » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:39 am

Bring a hot dog!

Good to read your reports again, captain.
We were getting worried you might've forgotten about your mission.



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Re: About to try to beat Star Control 2...no spoilers!

Post by The Troglodyte » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:42 am

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Captain’s Log – Feb 11, 2158 – Gamma Librae (Near Planet 1) – Yellow Alert

We set an intercept course for the Supox, but as we drew closer to them they were already venturing to the opposite side of the planet, so our momentum carried us within short-range sensor range of the gas giant, and as our viewscreen automatically switched over to reveal the planet’s two moons, it also revealed 8 more patrol groups of Supox as well! I sure hope these guys are friendly or we may have some trouble on our hands:

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We will set course for whichever Supox notices us first. We are again going back to Red Alert. Captain out.
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Captain’s Log – Supplemental:

As anticipated, as we crept closer to the giant ball of gas, the Supox noticed us and they all moved swiftly upon our position and surrounded us from all sides. Attempting to flee would’ve been useless, since as they had maneuvered into position, we saw that several of the vessels moved sideways while keeping their weapon system facing towards us, almost as if they were gliding sideways like someone shifting their weight while drifting on a snowboard.

My tactical officer analyzed their ship configuration and identified a series of thrusters mounted on various parts of the ship, allowing them to move in any direction on command. Hmmm… those kinds of maneuvering capabilities could come in handy against a variety of ships, including the multi-legged brothers of destruction.

However, their approach did not trigger the klaxons as per the norm, but at once there was an unusual plant-like creature addressing us in a quite friendly tone, welcoming us. We told them we came in peace, and they responded the same. We told them our ship is called the Vindicator, and they told us their ship is called the Tender Shoot.

We also told them we are representing The New Alliance of Free Stars from Earth, but when they told us they were from Earth too, I felt like they were merely mimicking everything we said! I mean, everybody always has that little bratty friend that informs you one day that today is ‘copy day’ and when you respond, “What’s copy day?” they respond, “What’s copy day?” and then you respond, “Hey! Stop that!” and they say, “Hey! Stop that!” and then you say… ok, you get the picture. I was halfway tempted to then say, “Supox are stupid, dumb weeds and Zelnick is the best!” but I decided against it, but that technique always worked on my friend Alex to get him to cease the copy everything routine!

Anyways, they explained that in their language their planet is called Vlik, which basically means earth, since the origins of the name literally translated are in direct reference to the soil and ground. They told us that their way is to learn and adapt to their surroundings through symbiosis, often copying whoever and whatever they meet to gain a better knowledge, which has allowed for their species to progress and evolve by a sense of cooperation amongst their plant brethren.

I then began to ponder what it would require for a plant to achieve sentience (or perhaps sapience would be more appropriate) considering that a plant’s primary function for gaining energy is through photosynthesis, whereas the relatively simple process of cell division and subsequent actions we witness from plants are most like involuntary responses as opposed to using a self-conscious brain attached to a central nervous system performing functions such as thinking, eating, drinking, responding to their environment and acting on their own derived notions and other similar functions we see in the animal kingdom.

Yes, cacti draw in water from a fresh rain like a deer from a brook, or vines may seem to climb as we observe them growing up a tree or wall, or there’s the unwary insect who’s thinking they’re about to enjoy a tasty treat of sweet-smelling dew on a leaf, but is suddenly ensnared by the Venus flytrap’s mouth-like leaves that even appear to have ‘teeth’ -- at which time the bug is digested to provide nutrients to the plant… as if it were eaten.

These examples may all seem to give indication that plants have intent and a will of their own, but it’s not as simple as that. These actions we witness in plants are more hard-wired rather than a self-driven purpose at work. The real truth is that from what we’ve observed from life and the evolution of beings, change (and specifically a change into intelligence) only comes when a species has no other choice but to adapt to its environment, and on a large enough scale, such as an entire species, these changes take a good deal of time to reap the fruition from simple life into consciousness, self-awareness and ultimately… sentience. Plants seem to fall short of these criteria.

Unless there was some kind of outside source of influence, the chances of a plant species in making those types of evolutionary leaps and bounds are somewhat farfetched… at least that is how it seems to me. Surprisingly though, when I explained all of this to Captain Ala-la’la, she totally agreed, verifying that their scientists have reached the same conclusion! Puzzling.

They remind me of an alien race from a game I used play who called themselves the Elowan, which of course, unlike the Supox, are totally fictitious creatures made for a computer game, but they indeed share some similarities, especially in appearance:

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The Elowan were also very plant-like and looked like a walking vine with a larger head than the Supox’s that appeared like a flower before blooming, which was important to their reproductive cycle, but also had a tragic implication in their history as well, which I’ll get into shortly. Their speech mannerisms were very wispy and flowing, and included lots of ‘thees’, ‘thous’ and ‘thines’ (and so did the Gazurtoid’s speech, oddly enough) like they were reading from a King James Bible or something.

Being part of the old alliance, they were part of the crew recruitment you could choose from (and I always gave mine funny names like Twiggy or Ryan Leaf) and they were excellent at communication and medicine, but they were very fragile and had the lowest endurance rating, as one might expect. If you met them is space, they were always very friendly (unless you had a Thrynn aboard) and one time they even gave me some fuel when I was running low on my way back home.

Back to their heads, when they’d enter a cycle of reproduction, their heads would enlarge and bloom like a flower, revealing a fruit which they called headfruit (maybe not the most imaginative of peoples in name creation) which performed some kind of role in their procreation, but other than that I really have no idea (use your own imagination; no plant porn here folks!)

Unfortunately, one of their neighboring spacefaring species, the reptilian Thrynn, had a peculiar appetite for these headfruit, and would even kill Elowan to eat or sell the headfruit on the black market, and thus the hatred between the Elowan and Thrynn was born. The Thrynn would even try to convince you that they knew the location of the secret Uhlek Brain World (one of you tasks to aide in completing the game) but the coordinates they give you was for the Elowan homeworld! Sly lizard bastards!

Anyway, where was I? Yes, the Supox. Well, when it came time to mention the Utwig, they confirmed that they were close friends and allies of the Utwig, and they knew all about their terrible calamity of Ultron destruction. Just like what the Melnorme had told us, the Supox told us how the Druuge had sold the device to the Utwig, claiming it would give them special powers. The Supox admitted they never actually believed the so-called super artifact could perform such marvels and wisdom, but since it made the Utwig happy, the Supox went along with the charade.

As a bizarre set of coincidence, they happened to have the Ultron on-hand and instantly decided to give it to us! They said that the Utwig couldn’t bear to look at it anymore, but the Supox haven’t been able to get it working again. I mean, when all you have is vines for hands and whatnot, it’s not like you’re going to be seeing a lot of Supox choosing the career field of repairman! (repairplant?)

Well, I figure we can slap a fresh coat of paint on the thing and attach a few Christmas tree lights and present it to the Utwig and everything will be all hunky-dorey and then they’ll fork over the bomb as compensation for our troubles, right? Hey, you know… now that I’m taking a good long, look at it… it reminds me of a symbol that used to display for already read messages on a message board forum I used to frequent.

We will pause to inspect and examine this Ultron, and perhaps find some more Supox to talk to. Zelnick out.
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Re: About to try to beat Star Control 2...no spoilers!

Post by krulle » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:00 am

The Troglodyte wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:42 am
I mean, when all you have is vines for hands and whatnot, it’s not like you’re going to be seeing a lot of Supox choosing the career field of repairman! (repairplant?)
May I add to this, Captain?
In my humble opinion, vines do have an advantage over our hands and rather inflexible finger.
First of all, the Supox did build a spacefaring civilization.
As such, we are sure that they can assemble complex machinery, and therefore are also very capable of repairing stuff.
Second, the regenerative capabilities of plants to recover from damages is well known, and as such I am sure the Supox are even able to use the regrowing and still rather small and thin vines, roots, leaves, for purposes their old root, vine, or leave has become too stiff and large.
So I am sure they can repair stuff themselves, where our trained specialiasts would need specialized tools to get into small holes, tiny spaces, and whatnot.
Please do not assume that the Supox are unskilled in any way.
That would be a diplomatic faux-pas, even if they would likely just respond (mimic?) by assuming us Humans are rather inadept too...

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Re: About to try to beat Star Control 2...no spoilers!

Post by Stickman_king_28 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:42 pm

Captain, if I may: It'd be pretty good to not make any fertilizer jokes with them, as I've experienced firsthand what a supox ship can do to its target... I was told that they had some kind of "Corrosive goop chain-gun" weapon... sounds hard to repair from. Due to them being from the old alliance, they'd be unwaiveringly loyal (as you said). Milk them for as much information as possible. As well, I think they'd know a lot about the history of the ur-quan... Possibly ask some questions?
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Re: About to try to beat Star Control 2...no spoilers!

Post by The Troglodyte » Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:20 am

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Captain’s Log – Feb 12, 2158 – Gamma Librae 1 – Status: Green

It would seem that I’ve underestimated the Supox. Admittedly, one of my officers did try to warn me to not view the Supox as unintelligent beings, or to disregard their technological advancements, but there was a big part of my deep-dwelling psyche which all the while kept tugging away at me, declaring with pure confidence that the Supox had only achieved their spacefaring prowess due to an outside source which must’ve uplifted them in a similar way the Yehat did to the Shofixti. I mean… they're just a bunch of plants for crying out loud! Really, it’s the Elowan’s fault, since they were well-known for being as fragile as dead, withered vines; I should’ve known it was foolish to compare a plant species from a game with an actual true-to-life alien species.

The real defining reason that I felt such low aspirations for the friendly plant people was due to their inability to fix the Ultron. I figured it should be simple enough… a little bit of paste here, some blinking lights there, a couple of sound effects and maybe a sprinkle of glitter and WHAM-O! A brand spanking new fixed Ultron! Unfortunately, the reality of the situation is that despite all of our efforts, we’ve been unable to fix it either. Even our Chief Engineer has chunked the thing across the cargo bay in anger after failing to repair it! Hey Chief! We don’t need to break it any more than it already is!

We approached the Supox several more times, but it was ineffective. I thought perhaps they would have many insights to share about not only this region of space but the Ur-Quan themselves, but instead they basically had no other advice except to seek out and ask the Druuge about the Ultron, since they were the former owners of the crippled artifact, and perhaps they have the schematics and repair manual or something. Perhaps if I acquire more information or if I can somehow cheer up the Utwig, then maybe the Supox will be more forthcoming in the information department.

We even tried exploring the planetary bodies within the system, but the gas giant and its two moons were neither revealing, and in the meantime during our explorations I informed the Supox of how they reminded me of broccoli, and talking with them made me crave a big bowl of broccoli casserole in a nice, cheese sauce, and they were indeed perturbed, but it didn’t change their attitude or intimidate them in the slightest. I also started cracking fertilizer jokes, telling them our ship is equipped with a “fertilizer cannon” but they seemed rather fond of the idea, considering how fertilizer actually helps plants grow.

I know there must be some kind of way to fix this damn Ultron artifact… but how? Perhaps if I took it back to the Utwig, then maybe they could somehow help? No time for sitting around thinking about it! -- It’s time for action! So, we will head back into Utwig space. We have set course for the closest star in Utwig space from our position: Delta Hyades. Captain out.
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Captain’s Log – Feb 16, 2158 – Delta Hyades – Status: Green

We have just entered the Delta Hyades System, an orange dwarf star, after a 4-day journey through Supox space and back into Utwig space:

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Planet 1 – Medium Green (cool zone)
Planet 2 – Medium Red (cold zone begins)
Planet 3 – Small Orange
Planet 4 – Small Purple
Planet 5 – Small Green
Planet 6 – Small Green
Planet 7 – Small Red
Planet 8 – Small Blue
Planet 9 – Purple Gas Giant

We are not seeing any Utwig ships on sensors, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t any Juggers closer to the planets, but so far they’ve seen friendly enough so we’ll remain at green status, although from what I’ve gathered, if their continuing rising levels of depression continue it could eventually change all that, that is of course assuming they don’t collectively decide to go the route of mass suicide.

However, since we’ve got the time as I deploy a time portal entry point, we will go ahead and explore this and the other nearby systems as we seek out some Utwig and see how they respond after seeing their “fixed” Ultron… I just hope the glue holds for that long!

We will set course for the 8th planet. Zelnick out.
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Re: About to try to beat Star Control 2...no spoilers!

Post by The Troglodyte » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:44 am

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Captain’s Log – Feb 19, 2158 - Delta Hayes (Near Planet 1)

We began with the 8th planet, which was only an Azure World with class 5 weather and 3 deposits of base metals, and the next one, planet 7, wasn’t any better, as it was a Carbide World with only 4 common minerals. The 4th, 5th and 6th planets were on the left-hand side of the system, so we continued inward and scanned the 3rd planet, a Radioactive World with 14 deposits of radioactive metals. Even though these were valuable minerals, since we’d reset anyway, I decided to forego any planetary landings unless it had lifeforms for us to survey so we continued on and…


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…we were on our way to the innermost planet when our sensors switched over as we drew closer to the sun, and our short-range sensors suddenly displayed an Utwig Jugger travel immediately from the 1st planet and in an instant, it was gone as it entered orbit of the 2nd planet. We didn’t even have time to capture a sensor image!

We will abort the remainder of our planetary studies and set course for the 2nd planet. We are going to Yellow Alert. Captain out.
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Captain’s Log – Supplemental – Condition Yellow:


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We are within sight of the Utwig and we’ve just put the finishing touches on our mock-up job on the Ultron. We added some paper mâché in some areas and some gold paint on some of the pointy parts to really make them stand out better! I’m sure the Utwig are just gonna love it!… Maybe even better than the older one!

We have set an intercept course for the Jugger squadron. Zelnick out.
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Re: About to try to beat Star Control 2...no spoilers!

Post by The Troglodyte » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:31 am

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Captain’s Log - Feb 20, 2158 – Delta Hyades II

We approached the 2nd planet with caution and our sensors revealed the anticipated presence of an Utwig squadron as we entered short-range sensor range. The alarm sounded the red alert as the Utwig broke from orbit and intercepted us as we closed in on them. There were 5 intimidating Juggers, but since we’ve had recent dealing with the Utwig, and other than constantly wallowing in their own misery, they’ve been amicable and otherwise nonconfrontational for the most part.

I stood up and held up the Ultron proudly (as some of its recently sprinkled glitter began to fall on my shoulders like golden dandruff) and proclaimed that we had brought it back to them so they could happy once again! Hooray!

However, they did not fall for it whatsoever. Their leader proposed many questions in the same manner as the melancholy muse Melpomene, such as “Should I look at it and never sleep ever again?” and “Why do you ostentatiously display that hunk of junk that used to be the Ultron?” and “Can’t you see how much pain and suffering you’re causing?” Yeah, I guess you could say I felt pretty bad. Then the Utwig exclaimed and demanded that we stop tormenting them and then they quickly terminated communications so they could go back to circling the planet some more.

Unfortunately, it didn’t get much better from there. We left the Vindicator adrift in far orbit and waited for the Utwig to emerge from the other side where we made contact again. They were dismayed, to say the least.

Their captain acknowledged in his typical downtrodden way that they accepted that they deserved to be visibly taunted by the object of their agony which they had neglected to protect, but there it was again before them and they could do nothing about it. Well, almost nothing.

Their leader gasped and drew a serrated bladed from his cloak, and then began ramming it in his face as he bellowed in pain, and also began slashing parts of his face until his mask was shredded! We would’ve finally been able to see what an Utwig looks like without their facial concealment had his face not been so unrecognizable, but at this point it was merely a bloody pulp. The rest of the Utwig crew followed their leaders example like lemmings off a cliff and more wails of turmoil began to rise as the viewscreen was switched off.

I asked our Umgah Doctor to offer them help if they ever came to their senses and ceased from their self-inflicted bloodshed, but I found out he instead told them a rather inappropriate joke:

So there’s these three guys that get shipwrecked on a tropical island inhabited by a tribe of cannibals. They bring them before the chief who tells them, “We are going to kill you and make canoes out of your skins, but we will allow you to choose your method of execution.”

The first man asked to be hanged, so he was and his skin was made into their canoes, while the second asked to be beheaded, so he was and his skin was also made into their canoes, but the third asked for a fork, and after they gave him one, he took the fork and began violently stabbing himself all over his body screaming, “Screw your stupid canoes!”


Well, although Umgah humor can be quite crude… the joke was at least fitting! I’d like to see how the Utwig bomb guards in Zeta Hyades will react when they see the Ultron. If they respond similarly, we may get to waltz right in and snatch the bomb while they continue the self-mutilations! Hey! I’m just weighing all of my options! Captain out.
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Re: About to try to beat Star Control 2...no spoilers!

Post by Stickman_king_28 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:03 pm

Zelick, get someone to clean the ship... Everyone´s vomiting. Jesus, who deserves to see utwig innards? THINK OF THE CHILDREN..? (oh yeah... I forgot about the hiring system.)
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Re: About to try to beat Star Control 2...no spoilers!

Post by Draxas » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:02 pm

Captain, with all due respect, I know your experiences with the Ilwrath have been traumatic, but perhaps emulating their methods is not the best way to deal with your issues.

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Re: About to try to beat Star Control 2...no spoilers!

Post by The Troglodyte » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:39 am

I’d like to announce that I am once again gainfully employed! I had been working a few temp jobs here and there with crazy random work schedules, but all of the hard work has finally paid off… with the emphasis on the word ‘paid’! In fact, I’m actually getting more pay than my previous job, but with every upside there’s a down, with the down being that much of my time has been…uh, well… consumed. Let’s just say that my previous employment allowed for a little more “down time”. With that being said, I’m still going to do my best to continue my logs and complete the game (one of these years! ;) ) but it will probably continue to be displayed in bite-size chunks. However, perhaps my more-negative/morbid side will become a bit less prevalent.

(Meanwhile…)
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Captain’s Log – Feb 27, 2158 – Zeta Hyades VI-b

We decided to go back to Zeta Hyades to see if the bomb guardians would reveal any new information after seeing their former Ultron.

On our way there, we ran into more Utwig on our way but they didn’t have anything new to say, except they all started the whole self-mutilation routine. Seems to be a trend.

When we arrived at Zeta Hyades VI-b, all they had to say was…

UTWIG – “We are the stewards of the Bomb. Taunting us buys you nothing. Go now.”

Since the only thing we’ve seemed to have accomplished as of late is a few dozen mangled Utwig faces and getting turned down again from the bomb-possessing planet, we will reverse time sequences to the point where we received the Ultron from the Supox and then from there we can return to Starbase and see what the scientist folks there have to say about it. Perhaps they can breathe some life into it or something.

We will set course for Starbase. Captain out.
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