About to try to beat Star Control 2...no spoilers!

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Re: About to try to beat Star Control 2...no spoilers!

Post by Draxas » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:25 pm

The Troglodyte wrote:... if diplomacy with the Thraddash fails.
Heheh... Hahahaha!

Sorry. By all means, please continue.

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Re: About to try to beat Star Control 2...no spoilers!

Post by The Troglodyte » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:41 pm

Draxas wrote:
The Troglodyte wrote:... if diplomacy with the Thraddash fails.
Heheh... Hahahaha!

Sorry. By all means, please continue.
Hmmm… why do I get this sneaky suspicion that reasoning with the Thraddash may be more difficult than I thought?
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Re: About to try to beat Star Control 2...no spoilers!

Post by krulle » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:36 pm

It is not that difficult, just hold a gun to their head....
Oh, wait. you can't leave your Vindicator when on mission....
Then send your Goliath over to show them that Humans are stronger.

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Re: About to try to beat Star Control 2...no spoilers!

Post by Quasispatial » Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:40 am

krulle wrote:It is not that difficult, just hold a gun to their head....
Oh, wait. you can't leave your Vindicator when on mission....
Then send your Goliath over to show them that Humans are stronger.
This somehow reminds me of holding a vegetable to Fwiffo's head. He would probably say anything you wanted him to say.
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Re: About to try to beat Star Control 2...no spoilers!

Post by Death 999 » Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:47 pm

krulle wrote:It is not that difficult, just hold a gun to their head....
Oh, wait. you can't leave your Vindicator when on mission....
Then send your Goliath over to show them that Humans are stronger.
I'll let it stand since this is basically what Greenish said, but *sigh*.

Also, you're mixing in other SC!

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Re: About to try to beat Star Control 2...no spoilers!

Post by krulle » Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:20 pm

You cannot literally hold a gun to someone's head in UQM....
And seeing how most Cultures of Thraddash followed the next one, it is questionable that he could change the followship of more than very few Thraddash...

And yes, I wanted to make it riminiscent of "holding a vegetable to Fwiffo's head".

edit: added the spoiler tags as suggested....
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Re: About to try to beat Star Control 2...no spoilers!

Post by Quasispatial » Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:00 pm

krulle wrote:And seeing how most Cultures of Thraddash followed the next one, it is questionable that he could change the followship of more than very few Thraddash...
Ssssshhhh. This could be a spoiler.
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Re: About to try to beat Star Control 2...no spoilers!

Post by krulle » Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:07 pm

holding a vegetablegun to someone's head is usually not a very successful move to make a lot of people follow you.
Threatening is one thing, and fighting and killing another.
You can usually threaten only very fun to follow you,
and fighting and killing he others also leaves you without folllowers, because they're dead.

Sometimes I wonder why the Thraddash have been subjugated by the Ur Quan at all...

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Re: About to try to beat Star Control 2...no spoilers!

Post by Quasispatial » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:01 am

krulle wrote:Sometimes I wonder why the Thraddash have been subjugated by the Ur Quan at all...
It's probably the principle of the matter. Can't just leave a race un-subjugated like that, even if the race in question would never be able to become an actual threat considering how their politics work.
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Re: About to try to beat Star Control 2...no spoilers!

Post by krulle » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:56 am

Quasispatial wrote:
krulle wrote:Sometimes I wonder why the Thraddash have been subjugated by the Ur Quan at all...
It's probably the principle of the matter. Can't just leave a race un-subjugated like that, even if the race in question would never be able to become an actual threat considering how their politics work.
Sure, from the Ur-Quan point of view there is no alternative.
I meant more like why haven't the Thraddash continued fighting until the Kzer-Za punished the planet the evolved on?
Why did the Traddash ever consider waiving the white flag and choosing to become battle thralls?


There are more things in the story like this.
I think in a modern game, this kind of story holes would not be accepted anymore, yet the lack of resources of the systems 25 years ago made it fully acceptable to have stereotypes likes this.... And imperfect story elements.
And it became a game consistenly in the top 10 of best games ever.

Anyway, back to Captain Troglodyte's story of how he freed the local galaxy from enslavement and saved it from annihilation.

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