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Re: Sequels strife

by krulle » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:50 pm

Sarcasm is badly transferred via the electronic lines of the InterWebs.

Re: Sequels strife

by Death 999 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:44 pm

By 'great' do you mean 'not great at all' or am I missing an implication?

Re: Sequels strife

by Now and Forever » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:55 pm

krulle wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:07 pm
That email will hurt Stardock even more.
Even if the court finds that SC:O is not infringing SC2 copyrights, the court might deny damages for the faulty DMCA, because the e-mail basically told FF and PR that Stardock will use all aliens and settings from SC2, and that therefore Origins is infringing, and therefore FFand PR had to contest SC:O distribution because they could reasonably expect infringing material inside the game.
Which would be a great outcome for Stardock considering their current predicament where they tried to trademark the copyrighted aliens they also created, then published, content for.

Re: Sequels strife

by krulle » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:07 pm

That email will hurt Stardock even more.
Even if the court finds that SC:O is not infringing SC2 copyrights, the court might deny damages for the faulty DMCA, because the e-mail basically told FF and PR that Stardock will use all aliens and settings from SC2, and that therefore Origins is infringing, and therefore FFand PR had to contest SC:O distribution because they could reasonably expect infringing material inside the game.

Re: Sequels strife

by Now and Forever » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:44 pm

krulle wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:15 pm
Gamedaily has an opinion about this too, but apparently they think GotP would be done under Activision's umbrella.
Anyway, their opinion abbreviates as "Too late for an effective DMCA, wrong timing for maximum damages/financial influence, and the DMCA also seems to be abusing the procedure of using the legal court system. And the fight seems to less one between corporations, than between (former) family members, who often seek maximum hurt instead of best solutions."...
I dismiss that notion on he basis of one of the parties stating they were going to infringe via email before they launched their lawsuit.

Re: Sequels strife

by krulle » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:15 pm

Gamedaily has an opinion about this too, but apparently they think GotP would be done under Activision's umbrella.
Anyway, their opinion abbreviates as "Too late for an effective DMCA, wrong timing for maximum damages/financial influence, and the DMCA also seems to be abusing the procedure of using the legal court system. And the fight seems to less one between corporations, than between (former) family members, who often seek maximum hurt instead of best solutions."...

Re: Sequels strife

by krulle » Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:04 pm

I saw Leser announcing his video on Brad's twitter feed, and it seemed like he pulled all the information he needed to form an opinion from Stardock's Q&A thread, and Mr. Wardell's twitter rants.
He also ver one-sided announced to give him the link todistribute it further, if he wants. He did not, afaik, offer the same to F&P.... [Edit]Sorry, mixed that up with some blogcasterIsaw here.[/edit]
From the get-go at that moment I decided to not watch it.

Re: Sequels strife

by PRH » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:47 pm

I've just seen the video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E95izB4i0G4). Lior Leser criticizes F&P for sending the DMCA notice against SCO, saying that they've had their way now, but that will only antagonize Stardock and their fans (which is already happening). Leser says that if and when F&P release GotP, Stardock is likely to retaliate by issuing a DMCA against it (and possibly starting a new lawsuit). He believes that the only way the fans of both games could win is if the case is settled. But that's only possible if both sides are acting in good faith... And at this point I can't be sure if either side is acting in good faith.

Re: Sequels strife

by Matthias » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:21 pm

Lior Leser will be releasing a new video analyzing the DCMA decision. I asked him if he knew about the settlement offer that P&F gave, and he didn’t. He read it and said it was “a sweetheart deal” and that Stardock should have taken it. He said he might make a follow up video to address it. Maybe Brad will listen to him.

Re: Sequels strife

by krulle » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:42 am

Apparently, yes. They seem to have tried to not interfere with the main release, which reduces the risk for having to pay damages if they loose the case. But also this increases the risk fomStardock considerably, as every sold copy increases the damages to be paid to FF and PR if Stardock is found guilty of violating a copyright held by FF and PR...

And yes, they could have filed a DMCA notice in September.
I am glad they did not, and awaited a decision by the judge on Stardock's request for an injunction.
But then, after the decision it was obvious that FF and PR would have to file a DMCA takedown request to show they mean it.

Now to wait for the full case to start rolling.

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